Re: Adjustments to userland for a quieter startup (RC system)

Most systems have a pretty splash screen, but a very noisy actual text
screen if you get to it :) I'd be inclined to make that work if it has
broken (it used to work great).

Warner

On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 11:10 AM Maku Bex <zagazaw2004@gmail.com> wrote:

> Remember that quiet/silent != fast. You might as well ask for a "pretty"
> splash screen instead of the dizzying text scroll.
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2025, 12:05 Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Feb 02, 2025 at 10:19:11AM +0000, Steven Harms (High-Security
>> Mail) wrote:
>> S> I also realize that this is a probably a controversial perspective. My
>> motivation here is ultimately service to the FreeBSD Laptop project.
>> Windows and OSX have conditioned many in the population of the
>> FreeBSD-curious to expect a lot less text on startup if things are going
>> well.
>>
>> This is how I call this strategy: "trying to win by mimicing current
>> winner".
>> This ain't going to work in general, even if you are mimicing good
>> features.
>>
>> But this particular thing is a misfeature.  I find it a big problem that
>> computer is absolutely silent and unresponsive when it is doing something.
>> This has been a problem in the Windows world since Windows 95.  This is
>> not a
>> feature that gave Windows and OSX their current popularity.  It is a
>> problem
>> and was it fixed they may have eaten even a bigger piece of the desktop
>> market.
>> As you see many people responded with disagreement to your suggestion.
>> Was OSX
>> more reporting to its users, maybe those people would be already on OSX
>> instead
>> of FreeBSD?
>>
>> Of course, FreeBSD policy is - TOOLS NOT POLICY :) So patches to
>> optionally
>> enable silent boot are welcome.
>>
>> --
>> Gleb Smirnoff
>>
>>