BIND chroot environment in 10-RELEASE...gone?

[Mark Andrews]

In message <20131206143944.4873391d at suse3>, Rainer Duffner writes:
> 
> 
> > 2) that this mess around FreeBSD 10 will not slow the
> > adoption rate of FreeBSD 10.
> 
> 
> I don't think so.
> Only a fraction of my servers ever needed BIND.
> And where we need it, we're happy to install a port of it (which has a
> lot of OPTIONS, which I saw for the first time only recently...)

Actually *all* your machines (that include mobile phones, tablets,
etc.) need a validating resolver on them which BIND can supply for
FreeBSD boxes.  Just because it can do other things is not a reason
to discount it as a validating resolver.  Setting up secure paths
between machines is difficult.  Setting up secure paths intra machine
is trivial.

> I can see the point for somebody who is running dozens of BIND-servers,
> though.
> Tracking BIND-updates via freebsd-update was/is probably quite
> convenient.
> 
> But, I have to say: if you do a major version upgrade, don't read the
> release-notes (which will mention the absence of BIND, I assume) and
> don't do a test-run of the upgrade on a non-critical-system,

And lots of people don't have test machines and need to take a leap
of faith when upgrading.  99.999% of the world takes Leap of Faith
upgrades whether it is FreeBSD, Windows, Apple or Linux.

> maybe you
> shouldn't be running a nameserver at all in the first place. And BIND
> even less so, IMHO.

But they should all be running a resursive validating resolver on
every box.

Release notes are really only useful for small percentage of people.
The same way as options on ports are only useful for small percentage
of people.  People don't expect stuff to be taked way in a upgrade
as it is no longer a upgrade.  And this was taken away after a long
sustained religious battle going back years based on bogus arguments.

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