Palm sync over bluetooth?

[Maksim Yevmenkin]

Eric,

>>> [...]
>>>
>>>>>>>> That's exactly how it is with serial and USB - computer connects to
>>>>>>>> Palm, then you start Hotsync application on Palm.
>>>>>
>>>>> does rfcomm_sppd(1) work for you?
>>>>
>>>> Well, not really.  rfcomm_sppd requires that the palm be the server 
>>>> of the serial port service (if I understand correctly, and I may 
>>>> not!), which means I would have to hit the sync button, then quickly 
>>>> start rfcomm_sppd with the correct channel number (which I don't 
>>>> know), and then start my sync right after that.  I have not been 
>>>> able to get this trickery to work.  Even so, if I did get it 
>>>> working, I'm not sure this is the best solution.
>>>
>>> what palm model do you have? is it possible to simple turn on 
>>> bluetooth without doing anything on palm? if so, then could you 
>>> please run
>>
>> Tungsten T5
>> Bluetooth is on, but with the palm powered off, obviously nothing will 
>> happen.  With it on, only slightly more than nothing happens.  See below.
>>
>>> % sdpcontrol -a palm_bd_addr browse
>>>
>>> and/or
>>>
>>> % sdpcontrol -a palm_bd_addr search SP
>>>
>>> if you palm has serial port (SP) service then you should be able to 
>>> just connect to it without hitting sync button first.
>>
>> Palm off:
>> [ 15:43:10 root at neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm browse
>> Could not execute command "browse". Host is down
>> [ 15:43:23 root at neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm search SP
>> Could not execute command "search". Host is down
>>
>> Palm on, doing nothing:
>> [ 15:43:40 root at neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm browse
>> (beep beep beep on palm, says "connecting")
>> [ 15:43:46 root at neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm search SP
>> Could not execute command "search". Host is down
>> [ 15:44:06 root at neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm browse
>> [ 15:44:19 root at neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm search SP
>> [ 15:44:22 root at neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm browse
>>
>> Palm on, trying to hotsync:
>> (says 'connecting' after hotsync press)
>> [ 15:46:40 root at neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm browse
>> [ 15:46:47 root at neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm search SP
>> [ 15:46:49 root at neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm browse
>> [ 15:46:52 root at neutrino ~ ]#
>>
>>> it is also trivial to extend rfcomm_sppd(1) to make it work as 
>>> server. you could use either nmdm(4) or pty(4) to emulate serial 
>>> port. i could put it on my to do list, but i need to know how palm 
>>> expects this to work (sorry never owned a palm :)
>>
>> That would be pretty nifty probably.
>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>>>> Any ideas what I may be missing?
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) check 'default' section in your /etc/ppp/ppp.conf and make sure 
>>>>> it only contains commands that applied to _all_ other sections in 
>>>>> your ppp.conf file. i always have 'default' section empty and move 
>>>>> all the commands to the appropriate section.
>>>>
>>>> I've removed everything in the default section, with no changes (I 
>>>> barely had anything in it).
>>>
>>> good. do you have a dropdown box on your palm that specifies remote 
>>> system access type, i.e. something like PPP (unix), RAS (microsoft) 
>>> or something like this? i recall that earlier versions of palm had 
>>> such dropdown box. you need to use "PPP (unix)".
>>>
>>> you might want to try to add something like
>>>
>>>     enable force-scripts
>>>     set dial "CLIENT CLIENTSERVER"
>>>
>>> to your bluetooth section in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf. this should make ppp 
>>> compatible with microsoft RAS style clients :)
>>
>> I'll try this out tonight.
>>
>>>>> 2) add 'set log all' to the 'bluetooth' section. then try again. 
>>>>> now /var/log/ppp.log should have tons of information that will tell 
>>>>> you what is going all.
>>>>
>>>> Done - now I have lots more logged info I don't understand. :)
>>>
>>> could you post it somewhere?
>>
>> Sure - I'll post it tonight for you.
>>
>>>>> 3) since you are _not_ using ppp authentication make sure your palm 
>>>>> does not require one
>>>>
>>>> Pretty sure it doesn't - no place to put in the info, and I connect 
>>>> up to my cellphone over bluetooth for surfing, etc using a similar 
>>>> method.
>>>
>>> do you mean you connect your palm to your cellphone?
>>
>> Yea, I mean my palm connects to cellphone.  Actually, I can also 
>> connect using my laptop through my cellphone over bluetooth to get 
>> internet also.
>>
>>>> Any more ideas?  What should I be looking for in the ppp logs?  I 
>>>> did see this though:
>>>>
>>>> Aug  1 14:38:02 neutrino ppp[17496]: tun0: Phase: deflink: closed -> 
>>>> opening
>>>> Aug  1 14:38:02 neutrino ppp[17496]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Link is 
>>>> SOCK_STREAM, but not inet
>>>> Aug  1 14:38:02 neutrino ppp[17496]: tun0: Debug: deflink: stdin is 
>>>> unidentified
>>>
>>> those are fine (i think). i'd like to see full log. i suspect there 
>>> is something is wrong at ppp level. you also might want to run 
>>> hcidump (from ports comms/hcidump) as root
>>>
>>> # hcidump -w palm.dump -- it will block
>>>
>>> then try to connect. then terminate hcidump with ^c and send me the 
>>> palm.dump file. also what is the freebsd version?
>>
>> -current (7.0).
>>
>> I'll try to get you more info tonight.
> 
> ppp.log is here:
> 
> http://www.googlebit.com/freebsd/ppp.log
> 
> And palm.dump is there too.
> 
> What else would you like?

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