Palm sync over bluetooth?

[Eric Anderson]

Eric Anderson wrote:
> Maksim Yevmenkin wrote:
> 
>> Eric,
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>>>>> That's exactly how it is with serial and USB - computer connects to
>>>>>>> Palm, then you start Hotsync application on Palm.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> does rfcomm_sppd(1) work for you?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, not really.  rfcomm_sppd requires that the palm be the server 
>>> of the serial port service (if I understand correctly, and I may 
>>> not!), which means I would have to hit the sync button, then quickly 
>>> start rfcomm_sppd with the correct channel number (which I don't 
>>> know), and then start my sync right after that.  I have not been able 
>>> to get this trickery to work.  Even so, if I did get it working, I'm 
>>> not sure this is the best solution.
>>
>>
>>
>> what palm model do you have? is it possible to simple turn on 
>> bluetooth without doing anything on palm? if so, then could you please 
>> run
> 
> 
> Tungsten T5
> Bluetooth is on, but with the palm powered off, obviously nothing will 
> happen.  With it on, only slightly more than nothing happens.  See below.
> 
>> % sdpcontrol -a palm_bd_addr browse
>>
>> and/or
>>
>> % sdpcontrol -a palm_bd_addr search SP
>>
>> if you palm has serial port (SP) service then you should be able to 
>> just connect to it without hitting sync button first.
> 
> 
> Palm off:
> [ 15:43:10 root at neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm browse
> Could not execute command "browse". Host is down
> [ 15:43:23 root at neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm search SP
> Could not execute command "search". Host is down
> 
> Palm on, doing nothing:
> [ 15:43:40 root at neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm browse
> (beep beep beep on palm, says "connecting")
> [ 15:43:46 root at neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm search SP
> Could not execute command "search". Host is down
> [ 15:44:06 root at neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm browse
> [ 15:44:19 root at neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm search SP
> [ 15:44:22 root at neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm browse
> 
> Palm on, trying to hotsync:
> (says 'connecting' after hotsync press)
> [ 15:46:40 root at neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm browse
> [ 15:46:47 root at neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm search SP
> [ 15:46:49 root at neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm browse
> [ 15:46:52 root at neutrino ~ ]#
> 
> 
>> it is also trivial to extend rfcomm_sppd(1) to make it work as server. 
>> you could use either nmdm(4) or pty(4) to emulate serial port. i could 
>> put it on my to do list, but i need to know how palm expects this to 
>> work (sorry never owned a palm :)
> 
> 
> That would be pretty nifty probably.
> 
> 
>> [...]
>>
>>>>> Any ideas what I may be missing?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1) check 'default' section in your /etc/ppp/ppp.conf and make sure 
>>>> it only contains commands that applied to _all_ other sections in 
>>>> your ppp.conf file. i always have 'default' section empty and move 
>>>> all the commands to the appropriate section.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've removed everything in the default section, with no changes (I 
>>> barely had anything in it).
>>
>>
>>
>> good. do you have a dropdown box on your palm that specifies remote 
>> system access type, i.e. something like PPP (unix), RAS (microsoft) or 
>> something like this? i recall that earlier versions of palm had such 
>> dropdown box. you need to use "PPP (unix)".
>>
>> you might want to try to add something like
>>
>>     enable force-scripts
>>     set dial "CLIENT CLIENTSERVER"
>>
>> to your bluetooth section in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf. this should make ppp 
>> compatible with microsoft RAS style clients :)
> 
> 
> I'll try this out tonight.
> 
> 
>>>> 2) add 'set log all' to the 'bluetooth' section. then try again. now 
>>>> /var/log/ppp.log should have tons of information that will tell you 
>>>> what is going all.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Done - now I have lots more logged info I don't understand. :)
>>
>>
>>
>> could you post it somewhere?
> 
> 
> Sure - I'll post it tonight for you.
> 
>>>> 3) since you are _not_ using ppp authentication make sure your palm 
>>>> does not require one
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Pretty sure it doesn't - no place to put in the info, and I connect 
>>> up to my cellphone over bluetooth for surfing, etc using a similar 
>>> method.
>>
>>
>>
>> do you mean you connect your palm to your cellphone?
> 
> 
> Yea, I mean my palm connects to cellphone.  Actually, I can also connect 
> using my laptop through my cellphone over bluetooth to get internet also.
> 
> 
>>> Any more ideas?  What should I be looking for in the ppp logs?  I did 
>>> see this though:
>>>
>>> Aug  1 14:38:02 neutrino ppp[17496]: tun0: Phase: deflink: closed -> 
>>> opening
>>> Aug  1 14:38:02 neutrino ppp[17496]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Link is 
>>> SOCK_STREAM, but not inet
>>> Aug  1 14:38:02 neutrino ppp[17496]: tun0: Debug: deflink: stdin is 
>>> unidentified
>>
>>
>>
>> those are fine (i think). i'd like to see full log. i suspect there is 
>> something is wrong at ppp level. you also might want to run hcidump 
>> (from ports comms/hcidump) as root
>>
>> # hcidump -w palm.dump -- it will block
>>
>> then try to connect. then terminate hcidump with ^c and send me the 
>> palm.dump file. also what is the freebsd version?
> 
> 
> -current (7.0).
> 
> I'll try to get you more info tonight.

ppp.log is here:

http://www.googlebit.com/freebsd/ppp.log

And palm.dump is there too.

What else would you like?

Eric




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Eric Anderson        Sr. Systems Administrator        Centaur Technology
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