Re: Weblate Translation Tips

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021, at 15:32, Fernando Apesteguía wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:16 PM Danilo G. Baio <dbaio@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021, at 11:33, Fernando Apesteguía wrote:
> > > On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 6:47 PM Danilo G. Baio <dbaio@freebsd.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Aug 8, 2021, at 13:41, Fernando Apesteguía wrote:
> > > > > El dom., 8 ago. 2021 18:36, Danilo G. Baio <dbaio@freebsd.org> escribió:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Aug 8, 2021, at 11:09, Fernando Apesteguía wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 9:24 PM Danilo G. Baio <dbaio@freebsd.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As you may know, we are still adjusting the translation workflow of the
> > > > > > > > FreeBSD Documentation Project through Weblate, there are some pending
> > > > > > > > items [1], but everyone can [re-]start translating.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've just added this wiki page [2] describing how to translate/build
> > > > > > > > each document (for now, there are only three).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The 'Article / Contributors to FreeBSD' [3] is a good example that
> > > > > > every
> > > > > > > > language should follow to keep all contributor's names updated.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If you have any questions, please let us know.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Danilo,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for this. It is very helpful!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Some questions. In the example on how to update the "Contributors to
> > > > > > > FreeBSD" article, it is said: "Just necessary translate index and
> > > > > > > contrib-develinmemoriam."
> > > > > > > In es/ we do not have any contributors/ directory. Not a big deal, we
> > > > > > > can create a new one based on another language. But here is the
> > > > > > > question. If we compare the directories pt_BR/ and en/:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  ls ../../../en/articles/contributors/
> > > > > > > _index.adoc                   contrib-386bsd.adoc
> > > > > > > contrib-additional.adoc       contrib-committers.adoc
> > > > > > > contrib-corealumni.adoc       contrib-develalumni.adoc
> > > > > > > contrib-develinmemoriam.adoc  contrib-portmgralumni.adoc
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > $ ls ../../../pt-br/articles/contributors/
> > > > > > > _index.adoc                   _index.po
> > > > > > > contrib-develinmemoriam.adoc  contrib-develinmemoriam.po
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Should I base the new "Contributors" article in the English version or
> > > > > > > another one?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Fernando.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In this case, you can follow pt-br; the missing files are
> > > > > > referenced/included
> > > > > > directly from the English directory.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > include::content/en/articles/contributors/contrib-committers.adoc[]
> > > > > > include::content/en/articles/contributors/contrib-corealumni.adoc[]
> > > > > > include::content/en/articles/contributors/contrib-develalumni.adoc[]
> > > > > > include::content/en/articles/contributors/contrib-portmgralumni.adoc[]
> > > > > > include::{include-path}contrib-develinmemoriam.adoc[]
> > > > > > include::content/en/articles/contributors/contrib-additional.adoc[]
> > > > > > include::content/en/articles/contributors/contrib-386bsd.adoc[]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You have to change this manually after translating with
> > > > > > ./tools/translate.sh.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Oops, yes. It was there in the wiki!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the clarification!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ah, don't worry. If you note something that is not there, let us know. or just update the wiki page  :)
> > >
> > > At the risk of exhausting your patience... :-)
> > >
> >
> > Hi Fernando.
> > Not at all. This is good to improve instructions.
> > You and everyone can ask anything. It's good to see that more people are translating FreeBSD documents.
> >
> >
> > > I tried to follow the guide, and got stuck running the translate.sh script:
> > >
> > > $ ./tools/translate.sh documentation es
> > > .....
> > > documentation/content/es/articles/contributors/_index.po
> > > Your input po file
> > > documentation/content/es/articles/contributors/_index.po seems
> > > outdated (The amount of entries differ between files: 73 is not 74
> > > ). Please consider running po4a-updatepo to refresh it.
> > > .....
> > > documentation/content/es/articles/contributors/contrib-develinmemoriam.po
> > >
> >
> >
> > You can use this variable/env so po4a-translate will ignore the translation percentage:
> >
> > $ KEEP_ENV=0 ./tools/translate.sh documentation es
> > .....
> > documentation/content/es/articles/contributors/_index.po
> > Your input po file documentation/content/es/articles/contributors/_index.po seems outdated (The amount of entries differ between files: 73 is not 74
> > ). Please consider running po4a-updatepo to refresh it.
> > .....
> > documentation/content/es/articles/contributors/contrib-develinmemoriam.po
> >
> >
> > $ find documentation/content/es/articles/contributors/
> >   documentation/content/es/articles/contributors
> >   documentation/content/es/articles/contributors/contrib-develinmemoriam.adoc
> >   documentation/content/es/articles/contributors/_index.po
> >   documentation/content/es/articles/contributors/_index.adoc
> >   documentation/content/es/articles/contributors/contrib-develinmemoriam.po
> >
> >
> > I'll update the wiki instructions later with the KEEP_ENV=0.
> >
> >
> > > I did the copy as the guide suggested in very updated freebsd-doc and
> > > freebsd-doc-translate repos and nevertheless repeated the process, but
> > > po4a-translate always complains about the number of entries mismatch.
> > >
> > > As a side note, I finished the Spanish translation of
> > > articles/contributors in Weblate. After a few minutes, I pulled the
> > > changes in freebsd-doc-translate. If I continue translating with
> > > weblate and pull the changes in my local copy of
> > > freebsd-doc-translate, can I use that as base to do the copy to
> > > freebsd-doc? Of course I need to translate the other documents
> > > (contrib-*.po).
> > >
> > > Cheers
> >
> > Yes, you can use it.
> > Last update on Weblate is from 2021-07-25 [1].
> > There was only one change on articles/contributors [1] since that.  It's a single '+', just check/include that.
> >
> >
> > 1 - https://cgit.freebsd.org/doc/commit/?id=d369054ed343acb84f1091d5a676c1039ed62d76
> > 2 - https://cgit.freebsd.org/doc/commit/documentation/content/en/articles/contributors/_index.adoc?id=a5d0b55b2fc7761041a0bb115eefdb10ff0f8af0
> 
> Thank you very much! It's been really clarifying.
> 
> I see in contributors/_index.adoc we are including documents from en/
> e.g. the list of additional contributors. These files are made purely
> of names and email addresses that do not need translation. In Weblate,
> these appear as untranslated documents. With this workflow, I
> understand we will never want to translate those files, right?
> Including them, guarantees that the list of contributors, additional
> contributors, etc is always in sync with the master (aka English)
> version.
> 
> Should we somehow disable those documents in Weblate? I see the
> Manage->Removal option, but I was thinking more in terms of "locking"
> the document and showing the translator a message about how those
> files are included. I didn't see anything like that on Weblate.



Good point.

I've removed them from the Weblate git repository [1]. All components are gone.

Weblate is in sync with aefc57f944a16682bf48e67142451fca5acd2bde now.


1 - https://cgit.freebsd.org/doc/commit/?id=aefc57f944a16682bf48e67142451fca5acd2bde
    https://github.com/doc-br/freebsd-doc-translate/commit/17f5b5d30b428dbbb27819f91899873f9f5a939f

Regards.
-- 
Danilo G. Baio