Re: List managers [Was: Link usability]

On Tue, 21 Mar 2023, Pete Wright wrote:

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> On 3/21/23 12:22, possessor.assizer305@aceecat.org wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 07:49:11PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote:
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>>> Ah, right.  Yet another consequence of the regressive move from
>>> mailman plus pipermail to mlmmj is loss of clickable links in the
>>> archived messages.  Duh!
>> Out of curiosity, what was the rationale for the move?
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>> My opinion:
>> Mailman has its warts but it's ubiquitous and well suited for
>> a world where almost everything has to be done in the browser
>> for $REASONS.
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> my understanding is that mailman was tied to python2, and the next version of 
> mailman (v3 iirc) that supports python3 is incompatible with the previous 
> version.  i think it also had a bunch of other shortcomings/issues.  so i 
> suspect the lift to use mlmmj was easier than moving to mailman v3.
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> i agree its an unfortunate situation, but its i think it would be 
> irresponsible to rely on python2 for such critical infrastructure.
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Boo on the mailman project. There is a conversion utility that takes care 
of the syntax changes. The only maajor changes I hit were the MySQL, and a 
couple of DNS modules. In something as complex as mailman I am sure there 
was more but relative to just maintaining something that complex well 
within there Python knowledge I would assume.