Re: Docker

From: Paul Pathiakis <pathiaki2_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 17:46:33 UTC
 And again, I must ask that this is dropped.  In my eyes, it is now trolling.
As Steve posted, find a group of people that are interested in making it available with FreeBSD kernel constructs and create something that can easily read/write and make use of the docker containers.
FreeBSD has multiple containers technologies and the oldest one is jails that was created, literally, decades ago.  Just because 'Docker' is the neat, new, kewl thing right now, it may or may not survive.  Jails and hypervisors have and so have all the other constructs of FreeBSD.  The security on them is incredible and the inheritance is well thought out.
Mario, if you really want this, start a project, find out all the people you need and ask if they will donate time.  You've been stating that no one wants to learn 'something new like jails/iocage etc'.  Thats the problem with the industry today.  People don't want to learn and understand at the bit level.  You want Docker on FreeBSD, but you don't want to learn about FreeBSD to learn how complicated it is.  
I work on various versions of Linux daily.  Quite frankly, it's a hodge-podge of multiple projects that get thrown together and somehow works.... until massive holes in functionality and security are found.There are bigger problems for them to fix than a container system that grew out of a need to simplify coding and environment creation for ease of use....aka not wanting to put the effort where it belongs... an incredibly solid foundation and proper programming practice.
The FreeBSD OPERATING SYSTEM is a kernel and userland.  It is constantly optimized, rewritten and goes through a rigorous design/upgrade/implementation process and multiple QA and release clients before any version is released.  It shows in the CVE findings.  Even x.0 releases are robust and mostly bug free.  I don't see any versions of the Linux KERNEL ever doing that and its a comparison between a COMPLETE OS versus just a KERNEL.
So pardon me.... but I now see you as a troll.  Please talk to some of the more detailed people on the mailing lists to start your project.  Learn about the kernel structures on Linux and FreeBSD and their equivalents.  That's where you should start.
Paul
    On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 09:40:47 AM PDT, Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Have you ever asked yourself because until 2015 there was an interest to keep the docker updated between the ports ? Maybe because there was (and for me there is) a good interest between the developers and users,even if there aren't developers interested to fix it. 

On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 5:51 PM Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 17:43:15 +0200
Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com> wrote:

> For sure not everything,but something that is very requested and that it
> has given a solid proof to be a valid and robust tool. I think Docker has
> all these requisites.

        So go forth and make it happen. I posted elsewhere an overview of
what needs doing (I probably missed a lot of things), it's a fairly big
project and it will need its own team of developers composed of people who
want it done.

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org>



-- 
Mario.