Re: Using a FreeBSD desktop was somehting about dog food
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 14:49:19 UTC
On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 5:29 PM Jerry Seibert <jerry@seibercom.net> wrote: > On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 14:18:06 +0200, Tomasz CEDRO stated: > >On Sun, Mar 27, 2022, 11:26 Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > > > >> This means that trouble is not coming from "Open Source" but from > >> "Management of Use of Open Source " . > >> > >> > >> Over the years , without relentlessly I am mentioning this difficulty > >> point . > >> It seems that there is no hope to reach a solution to this problem > >> . I do not know why . > >> > > > >The root cause of this are ideologies. "change is good". "the only > >constant is change". "software development is about enforcing vision". > >This is mostly thanks to Microsoft. Fancy Linux "bleeding edge" > >followed. Then big tech like Google with Android and Smartphones did > >the same what Microsoft did with Windows and PC. Then Samsung > >followed. Then Apple followed. Now it's considered standard. Building > >something without solid fundaments plus constant change of the > >fundaments. > > > >Look at JavaScript and try to do anything with that mess, something > >fundamentally flawed but extremely available and popular, not to > >mention malware showing up more and more recently in various > >dependencies that are totally out of control. > > > >This mess impacts BSD world but it is not welcome here and I hope it > >never will. This is why I love BSD. More and more people can see that > >too :-) > > > >-- > >CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info > > "Publish or perish " is an aphorism describing the pressure to publish > academic work to succeed in an academic career. A parallel can be drawn > between that analogy and the need for software and operating system > developers to innovate or wither on the vine. At the very least, they > need to stay competitive, which means they must keep current. > > FreeBSD never innovates and rarely stays even remotely current. They > are consistently behind other operating systems regarding innovation > and staying current with modern devices, i.e., the 555-BEOY: > Thunderbolt 3 PCIe Network and IO Card. {See: > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=237666} > > FreeBSD may be fine for commercial use in servers, but it is falling > seriously behind in the consumer market. The public, in general, is not > interested in using an OS that fails to run their favorite or > industry-standard software. Nor are they relishing the opportunity to > be held hostage to a system that will not accommodate modern hardware > devices. Even an ordinary, everyday item such as a printer driver can > be an exercise in futility with FreeBSD. Getting a current driver with > full printer support is difficult at best in way too many instances. I > contacted Brother USA a few years ago inquiring about a driver for a > high-end laser printer I had purchased. They had drivers for several > *nix products, but none for FreeBSD. The engineer I spoke to ran Linux > on his home PC and fully felt my pain. He explained that FreeBSD was > just not mature enough to invest the money and time required to produce > a full line of drivers. > > As I see it, FreeBSD will be relegated to the back of the pack for home > use. I do not know a single business, at least a fortune 500, or any > municipality that uses FreeBSD for their office PCs. If FreeBSD wants > to stay relevant in the home market, they need to up their game and > stop putting out a new version simply to put out a new version and > rather invest the time and effort required to correct the existing bugs > in FreeBSD and create drivers for newer devices. > > -- > Jerry > > And in the immortal words of Elvira Hancock's advice to Tony Montana, > "Don't get high on your own supply." > I am always mentioning that without a sufficiently large user base , approximately a large number of companies will not be interested in FreeBSD because they will not be able to sell products to FreeBSD users to recover their expenses . I am a subscriber of many FreeBSD mailing lists . It is very easy to store a copy of mailing list archives by using "wget" . If we count the current FreeBSD users , we will see that the number ( NOT value ) of them is small . Newcomers are very rare . In this world , there is a "Natural Law" saying that people will leave work after an age . This "age" is reaching consistently . Question is : "Who will make FreeBSD live ?" Whatever the point of looking at FreeBSD , the main point is the answer to this question . Generate technologically a very good open source Operating System , and , then , send it to the Cemetery of Operating Systems" ... Since 1970 , I saw that the number of residents of that cemetery is increasing fastly . There is plenty of land there . Do not worry , in this world , there is only one place where dying is prohibited : https://www.google.com/search?q=place+where+dying+is+prohibited&sxsrf=APq-WBuZJ-1puca8zRJSYTkReVO0Rv1MWQ%3A1648392480219&source=hp&ei=IHlAYvjtCv2Oxc8P4O2quA8&iflsig=AHkkrS4AAAAAYkCHMEihZgkG1A8Xs283yCYl9PuM6azX&ved=0ahUKEwj4_ezBxOb2AhV9R_EDHeC2CvcQ4dUDCAY&uact=5&oq=place+where+dying+is+prohibited&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EANQAFgAYJsSaABwAHgAgAGPAYgBjwGSAQMwLjGYAQCgAQKgAQE&sclient=gws-wiz place where dying is prohibited Mehmet Erol Sanliturk