Re: 15.0 pkgbase, heads up: cron, lpr packages

From: Lexi Winter <lexi_at_le-fay.org>
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 00:35:38 UTC
Chris:
> On 2024-04-25 16:33, Lexi Winter wrote:
> > it's not essential: many jails don't need cron, for example.  i have
> > several micro (service) jails that only run a single binary and don't
> > need many things that would be considered essential on a normal
> > multi-user system.

> Indeed. A jail is not a jail is not a jail. There is a myriad of tasks
> and services a jail can provide for. We run some 50+ for our needs. But
> I never mentioned jail in the context of "essential" services. So I'm
> not sure why we're talking about it. :)

well, you asked why someone would want to remove cron -- 'building a
small jail' is an example of why someone might want to do that.  you
could already do that today by removing FreeBSD-utilities (and just
keeping FreeBSD-runtime) but the problem with that is FreeBSD-utilities
includes a lot of other things you might still want.  so moving cron to
its own package allows the user to pick and choose what they want to
install with more granularity.

> I'm puzzled as to the motivation to remove it from $BASE.

to be clear, this only moves cron from one package (FreeBSD-utilities)
to another (FreeBSD-cron) -- it's not being removed from the base
system.  FreeBSD-utilities is already considered a non-essential
package.