Re: It's not Rust, it's FreeBSD (and LLVM)

On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 12:10 PM Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
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> On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 9:32 AM Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> wrote:
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>> As part of the migration, we yank LLVM out of the src.
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>> "pkg upgrade" also upgrade kernel and userland packages - Welcome to
>> the century of the fruitbat.
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>> And yes, we have ports written in Rust, why do you ask?
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> pkgbase is the path forward. It is the future. We are better off putting all our
> horses behind that effort so we can make it the default install in 15.0.
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> Once we have that, this whole debate becomes moot, for the most part.
> Userland in rust can compete with userland in C. And with go, python, etc
> for whatever does the job the best. If rust is so much better, then people
> will use it, otherwise they will use the C version.

How will pkgbase handle the private interface problem?  For example,
libifconfig and the /dev/cam/ctl ioctls are both unstable.  A port
that uses one of those and is built for FreeBSD 14.0 won't necessarily
work for 14.1.  As long as those interfaces' consumers are all within
src there's no problem, but if they move to ports then they'll need to
be rebuilt everytime the libifconfig or kernel port, respectively,
gets rebuilt.