Re: Difference in "netstat -rn" output in the last 2 months

From: Alexander Leidinger <Alexander_at_Leidinger.net>
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2025 08:23:48 UTC
Am 2025-01-28 21:09, schrieb Maxim Sobolev:

> <sarcasm>Discussed between 3 people, creating the problem for 3,000. 
> Great!</sarcasm>

Sorry, but sarcasm doesn't help here. In the light of a lot of hot talk 
(and more) all around the globe, feel free to go the open source way and 
provide a patch. We all want to improve FreeBSD, sometimes it works on 
first try, sometimes we need to try more often.

Bye,
Alexander.

> -Max
> 
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2025, 7:05 PM Alexander Leidinger 
> <Alexander@leidinger.net> wrote:
> 
> Am 2025-01-28 18:32, schrieb Maxim Sobolev:
> 
> I also think this should be reverted back to default. "-n" refers to IP 
> to name functionality, "default" is clearly a special case. If someone 
> wants it, some other option can be added to emit 0.0.0.0/0 [1] (not 
> sure why but ok).
> 
> This was discussed in the review referenced in the commit. The -nn 
> proposal was there too. Personally I agree with the rationales in favor 
> of "-nn".
> 
> Bye,
> Alexander.
> 
> -Max
> 
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2025, 5:46 PM Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org> 
> wrote: On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 04:58:57PM +0100, Alexander Leidinger 
> wrote:
> A> something has changed in the output of "netstat -rn" between
> A> 2024-11-23-195545 and 2025-01-22-151306. The default route is not 
> listed as
> A> "default" anymore, but with "0.0.0.0" resp. "::/0". This breaks some 
> tools
> A> (e.g. iocage). Iocage uses python, I'm not sure if it uses netstat 
> or some
> A> other interface, so it may not be directly related to netstat itself 
> but
> A> could be related to some other stuff (netlink maybe?).
> A>
> A> Does this ring a bell for someone?
> 
> This is very likely changed by 
> 9206c79961986c2114a9a2cfccf009ac010ad259.
> 
> Allan, may be make exclusion for the "default" to keep POLA? Otherwise,
> indeed at time of 15.0-RELEASE we will receive some negative feedback 
> :)
> 
> Maybe double -nn should introduce new behavior?
> 
> --
> Gleb Smirnoff

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