Re: Difference in "netstat -rn" output in the last 2 months

<sarcasm>Discussed between 3 people, creating the problem for 3,000.
Great!</sarcasm>

-Max

On Tue, Jan 28, 2025, 7:05 PM Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net>
wrote:

> Am 2025-01-28 18:32, schrieb Maxim Sobolev:
>
> I also think this should be reverted back to default. "-n" refers to IP to
> name functionality, "default" is clearly a special case. If someone wants
> it, some other option can be added to emit 0.0.0.0/0 (not sure why but
> ok).
>
>
> This was discussed in the review referenced in the commit. The -nn
> proposal was there too. Personally I agree with the rationales in favor of
> "-nn".
>
> Bye,
> Alexander.
>
>
> -Max
>
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2025, 5:46 PM Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 04:58:57PM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> A> something has changed in the output of "netstat -rn" between
> A> 2024-11-23-195545 and 2025-01-22-151306. The default route is not
> listed as
> A> "default" anymore, but with "0.0.0.0" resp. "::/0". This breaks some
> tools
> A> (e.g. iocage). Iocage uses python, I'm not sure if it uses netstat or
> some
> A> other interface, so it may not be directly related to netstat itself but
> A> could be related to some other stuff (netlink maybe?).
> A>
> A> Does this ring a bell for someone?
>
> This is very likely changed by 9206c79961986c2114a9a2cfccf009ac010ad259.
>
> Allan, may be make exclusion for the "default" to keep POLA? Otherwise,
> indeed at time of 15.0-RELEASE we will receive some negative feedback :)
>
> Maybe double -nn should introduce new behavior?
>
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