Re: Tooling Integration and Developer Experience

On 1/30/23 13:53, Warner Losh wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 3:40 AM Kurt Jaeger <pi@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>>> On 1/30/23 02:54, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
>>>>     The main idea: to prevent information fragmentation and    improve
>>>>     discoverability, cross-referencing abilities, search, etc.
>>> With regards to improving discoverability, Phabricator's Owner
>>> tool could be a good tactical move: it allow to bind code area to
>>> peoples in order to automatically add them to reviews.
>> If you know phabricator in more detail, is there any kind of tool
>> to understand the activity going on ?
>>
>> In bugs.freebsd.org, there is the dashboard:
>>
>> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/page.cgi?id=dashboard.html
>>
>> I think we might need something similar to help us understand
>> the current state of the phabricator instance and the work
>> being done.
>>
>> Phab allows Dashboards, but no-one had the time to configure some
>> queries to provide relevant stats.
>>
> Phab is a terrible tool for discovery. For example, how do I query all the
> reviews I've ticked 'OK' that are still open, by non-committers? How do I
> flag things as 'interesting to me'? I can tick a flag, but I can't query
> flags. Also, I can't get an email address for submitter either. That makes
> it more of a pain to land the commit.
You can search flags here [1]. You can filter them by color and the object
(i.e. differential revision or any other Phab thing).
Flags are personal and not visible to anybody else

For common use I think tags are better and are queryable in here [2].
Tags require projects, projects can be created by administrators, this is
a bit counter-intuitive, but it works

> But there's two other issues: The FreeBSD project has had a long history of
> being behind, regardless of the tools we use. There's a labor shortage to
> process these things as well. Second, lots of people want to talk, but few
> want to do the work. I tried leading an effort in this area,but grew weary
> of the passive-aggressive comments about how I basically sucked for not
> having it done already (from the same people that did 0 actual work on it).
>
I'd love to help and do the grunt work. What is important is some form of
consensus that project actually needs this. I don't know how this works,
the is very little visibility from the Core on these matters.

[1]https://reviews.freebsd.org/flag/ [2] 
https://reviews.freebsd.org/differential/query/advanced/

-- 
Ihor Antonov