svn commit: r217828 - projects/graid/head/sys/geom/raid

John Baldwin jhb at freebsd.org
Wed Jan 26 15:42:44 UTC 2011


On Wednesday, January 26, 2011 10:06:47 am Ken Smith wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 11:45 +0200, Alexander Motin wrote:
> > Those who want maximum robustness should use dedicated
> > drive on the most trivial dedicated controller to make dumping reliable.
> > If we are going above that - there are always some compromises. 
> 
> Please remember this statement when I change dumpdev from "AUTO"
> to "NO" in /etc/defaults/rc.conf shortly after branching stable/9.  :-)

No, I still think this is the wrong answer.  Kernel dumps are not inherently 
unreliable to the point that we should not enable them by default.  However, 
turning dumps off is a good way to prevent developers from debugging non-
trivial bugs that are only triggered under real-world workloads.

I think we should strive to make our dumps as reliable as possible, but 
nothing in our system is perfect (hence bugs), and if we are going to require 
absolute perfection for kernel dumps before enabling them by default then we 
might as well not ship anything at all as I can _ensure_ you the rest of the 
system we ship is _not_ absolutely perfect.

-- 
John Baldwin


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