svn commit: r270444 - in head/sys: kern sys

[John Baldwin]

On Monday, August 25, 2014 9:28:16 pm Mateusz Guzik wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 01:35:58PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> > On Monday, August 25, 2014 07:02:41 PM Mateusz Guzik wrote:
> > > On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 10:23:19AM -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, August 24, 2014 09:04:09 AM Mateusz Guzik wrote:
> > > > > Author: mjg
> > > > > Date: Sun Aug 24 09:04:09 2014
> > > > > New Revision: 270444
> > > > > URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/270444
> > > > > 
> > > > > Log:
> > > > >   Fix getppid for traced processes.
> > > > >   
> > > > >   Traced processes always have the tracer set as the parent.
> > > > >   Utilize proc_realparent to obtain the right process when needed.
> > > > 
> > > > Are you sure this won't break things?  I know of several applications that
> > > > expect a debugger to be the parent when attached and change behavior as a
> > > > result (e.g. inserting a breakpoint on an assertion failure rather than
> > > > generating a core).
> > > 
> > > Well, this is what linux and solaris do.
> > 
> > Interesting.
> > 
> > > I don't feel strongly about this change. If you really want I'm happy to
> > > revert.
> > 
> > In general I'd like to someday have the debugger-debuggee relationship not 
> > override parent-child and this is a step in that direction.  However, this 
> > will break existing applications, so this needs to be clearly documented in 
> > the release notes.  In addition, we should probably advertise how a process 
> > can correctly determine if it is being run under a debugger (right now you can 
> > do 'getppid()' and use strcmp or strstr on the p_comm of that pid so you can 
> > do different things for "gdb" vs "gcore", etc. so just checking P_TRACED from 
> > kinfo_proc wouldn't be equivalent in functionality)
> > 
> 
> Is any of programs you mentioned opensource or at least publicly
> available? 

The only ones I can currently think of are not publicly available.

> In linux they provide TracerPid in /proc/<pid>/status.
> 
> We could add a specific sysctl or extend kinfo with the same data.

A tracer pid would be sufficient.

-- 
John Baldwin