svn commit: r491810 - in head/editors/vim: . files

[Torsten Zuehlsdorff]

On 01.02.19 16:24, Cy Schubert wrote:
> In message <3ca96b45-44d9-34b4-b48e-b49c1f1c4066 at toco-domains.de>, 
> Torsten Zueh
> lsdorff writes:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01.02.19 15:47, Cy Schubert wrote:
>>> On February 1, 2019 6:02:44 AM PST, Adam Weinberger <adamw at freebsd.org> wro
>> te:
>>>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 6:58 AM Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe at freebsd.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 01, 2019 at 01:54:07PM +0000, Adam Weinberger wrote:
>>>>>> New Revision: 491810
>>>>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/491810
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>>   Update vim to patchlevel 865
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   After discussion on freebsd-ports@, switch the default UI toolkit
>>>>>>   from GTK2 to GTK3. There isn't a huge visual difference, so it's
>>>>>>   more predicated on the idea that people are more likely to have
>>>>>>   GTK3 already installed for other things.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, I believe it's more likely that people have GTK+2
>>>> installed,
>>>>> not 3.  That said, however, perhaps the best way out would be
>>>> flavoring
>>>>> the port so it offers both packages.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure that there's a huge benefit to offering multiple UI
>>>> toolkit packages. There's not much difference between the GTK2 and the
>>>> GTK3 interface. Perhaps I mischaracterized the situation; it is
>>>> definitely correct to say that the discussion on freebsd-ports@
>>>> revealed nearly unanimous agreement that people would prefer GTK3 be
>>>> the default.
>>>>
>>>> # Adam
>>>
>>> The big difference from a user's perspective is the scroll bar, specificall
>> y middle button behavior.  IMO a regression. 
>>
>> After the switch to GTK-3 i have no scroll bar at all. "at all" means in
>> kate, libreoffice, dolphin and all other kde/gtk-3 - applications. :D
> 
> Hmm. Firefox uses GTK-3. It has a scrollbar. If I play with it, as in 
> put the cursor toward the middle of the slider, it does work. It's not 
> as easy as Motif or GTK-2 are. I think this is an attempt by GUI 
> developers to use one code base for mobile, notebook, and desktop. 
> Compromises that are clunky at best.
> 
> Have you tried scrolling using the wheel? It might "magically" appear.

Mh, Firefox and Thunderbird still have scroll bars. I did not realize
that they use GTK 3.

Kate has something like an "mini map" at the right but no scroll bar.
Libreoffice has no scroll bars, too. I can scroll with the mouse wheel
or with the cursor. But this does not make a scroll bar appear.

Greetings,
Torsten