svn commit: r369643 - head/misc/getopt

Bryan Drewery bdrewery at FreeBSD.org
Wed Apr 1 16:42:52 UTC 2015


On 4/1/2015 6:09 AM, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 09:57:27PM +1100, Kubilay Kocak wrote:
>> On 1/04/2015 4:46 AM, Bryan Drewery wrote:
>>>> Were these updates even tested? [...]
>>>> This broke xorg, git, xfce, qt, the list goes on. No packages are
>>>> provided for this large list this week.
>>>>
>>>> Commits _must be tested_.
>>>
>>> Sorry for being so harsh here.
> 
> (To Bryan) nothing to be sorry about.  Trivially avoidable fuckups should
> not be tolerated.
> 

Yes people must test. I still feel I overreacted though. Especially
considering I don't test my own changes on every release/arch. I do what
I feel is needed with the changes and often find mistakes. We're all human.

>> +1
>>
>> We need more things that help us 'fail fast', 'fail cheap', 'fail safe'
>> and 'fail closed', independent of, and in addition to 'test commits'.

That reminds me that I need to improve the script to actually "fail
fast". It currently finishes the build first. So it may fail 1501 5
minutes into the build and then spend the next 10 hours building things
that will never publish.

> 
> We already have 1) tinderbox; and 2) p<murmur>re.  On a related note, I
> see the line QAT in every commit message that leads nowhere.  Why don't
> we fix that thing, or remove stale and non-working link?
> 

I will remove it for now.

Bryan

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