svn commit: r364739 - in head: . sysutils sysutils/syslog-ng-devel sysutils/syslog-ng-devel/files

[Czanik, Péter]

Hi,

On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert at komquats.com> wrote:
> In message <53EA6EBB.2010802 at marino.st>, John Marino writes:
>> On 8/12/2014 21:39, Cy Schubert wrote:
>> > Author: cy
>> > Date: Tue Aug 12 19:39:33 2014
>> > New Revision: 364739
>> > URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/364739
>> > QAT: https://qat.redports.org/buildarchive/r364739/
>> >
>> > Log:
>> >   Reintroduce syslog-ng-devel for 3.6.0alpha2.
>> >
>> >   Submitted by:     Peter Czanik <peter.czanik at balabit.com> (syslog-ng upli
>> ne)
>>
>>
>> Do Ports really need alpha quality -devel ports in the collection?
>>
>> If it were up to me I'd purge 90% of our -devel ports.  I tried to start
>> a conversation about a policy for these with portmgr, but as usual, only
>> one person responded.  I'd still like to have that conversation though.
>>  This -devel port trend is disturbing.
>
> Some people actually use this stuff, bleeding edge -CURRENT with bleeding
> edge ports. If people want to try out and test new software on the latest
> -CURRENT, by the time the rest of us use the release-ready versions most of
> the bugs have been ironed out. At the expense of a little repo bloat our
> upline and users receive a better product in the end.

That's it. Our users are asking for the alpha releases to be easily
available, as they need some of the new features. So I prepare Linux
packages and FreeBSD ports, as building from source without package
management is not acceptable for most users. And it's also good for
us, syslog-ng upstream, as most of the development is done on Linux,
and having alpha releases in FreeBSD helps to keep syslog-ng
multi-platform. Any Linux only code surfaces easily when I start
packaging for FreeBSD :)
Once the -devel port is mature enough (after a few maintenance
releases) it is moved to sysutils/syslog-ng and the old syslog-ng port
is moved to a versioned port, like sysutils/syslog-ng34. The 3.3
version is reaching end of life soon, so that port will be removed
later this year, or early next year.
Bye,
-- 
Peter Czanik (CzP) <peter.czanik at balabit.com>
BalaBit IT Security / syslog-ng upstream
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