Plans for after FreeBSD-5.3-RELEASE.

[Jose M Rodriguez]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 14:21:44 -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke  
<marcus at marcuscom.com> wrote:

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> Jose M Rodriguez wrote:
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> | Hi,
> |
> | After test FreeBSD-5.3-BETA5 + current ports, I'm very glad with how
> | it's  worked out.
> |
> | But I'm not convince about how X11, gnome and kde works together.
> |
> | I've to develop a NetWS / Kiosk for a customer and need to work on  
> this.
>
> GNOME has been adding quite a few lock-down features to aid in these
> types of deployments.  I would be very interested in knowing how they
> work out for you.

First giving some help at request. I'm  pretty familiar KDE,
  but and sporadic gnome user.

>
> |
> | Is anyone interested on that?
>
> I have always thought FreeBSD needed for desktop loving.  I would be
> interested in helping with any project that makes FreeBSD more
> desktop-friendly.
>
> |
> | My TODO List is now by that:
> |
> |  - Plans for moving/merging X11 config form /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/ to
> | /etc/X11/
> |     + seems to be most Linux/Unix trends
> |     + easier WS setup.
>
> This is a mistake, IMHO.  FreeBSD's model is not to put ports
> configuration files in /etc.  In fact, the PAM files in /etc/pam.d now
> are rumored to me moving out to ${LOCALBASE} and ${X11BASE}.
>

As a general rule, I agree, but for sharing /usr ia a little nigthmare.
Taking XINITDIR and XDMDIR from ${PREFIX}/lib/X11 to /etc/X11 is not so  
bad idea.
I'm not so sure about other thinks that live under ${PREFIX}/lib/X11/

I think having Xorg, XDM and xinit conf, Xresources ... under /etc/X11/ is  
really
a good idea.

> |
> |  - Plans to work and standard FreeBSD way to X11
> |     + An implementation guide common to x11/gnome/kde (document ->
> | article |  handbook)
> |     + FreeBSD specific support for xinit/xdm config (~/.xinitrc ...)
> |     + rcNG support for x11
> |         * /etc/rc.d/xdm.  operative and valid for gdm/kdm/xdm
> |         * /etc/rc.d/xfs?  we need a font server with libXFT trends?
> |         * /etc/rc.d/xserver.  Xserver init for XDMCP (XTerminal)
> |         * /etc/rc.d/xinit.  Special init via xinit.
>
> I have a patch for rcNG support for gdm that will be going in after the
> freeze.
>

I just made a post on this.  I think that making /etc/rc.d/xdm operative
is a better idea.

> |
> |  - Plans to work on a FreeBSD 'feeling'. Same fonts, ...
> |     + tweaks to apps-defaults, gnome and kde config.
> |     + common process of resources. Xresources , Xmodmap, ...
> |
> |  - Plans to specific support for NetBooting. NetWS, XTerminals, Kiosk
> |
> |  - Plans to specific support easy thenmeing 'a la FreeBSD'.
>
> This sounds like a good project in and of itself (i.e. FreeBSD Desktop
> Project).
>
> Joe
>

Thanks for your comments,

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