Deprecating base system ftpd?

[Chris]

On 2021-04-05 12:01, Patrick M. Hausen wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>> Am 03.04.2021 um 22:39 schrieb Ed Maste <emaste at freebsd.org>:
>> I'm happy to make a port for it if anyone needs it. Comments?
> 
> A bit late to the party, but my take is: please just don't.
> 
> I absolutely freaked out when Apple removed the telnet and ftp clients
> from Mac OS and I needed to reinstall them via MacPorts.
That route uses an inferior (opinion) version of ftp(1) && ftpd(8).
It might interest you to know that the FreeBSD versions that (currently)
already come with FreeBSD can be copied over to your Mac. I *too*
became upset when I found MacOS w/o these, and on a hunch tried it,
and worked as intended/expected. The FreeBSD version(s) are more
"featurefull" than those that originally came on the Mac, or the GNU
one that is supplied w/MacPorts.

> 
> People who manage any larger collection of networking gear *depend*
> on these outdated but simple services. Client and server side alike.
> 
> TFTP is not going away, neither is FTP. I'm dead serious. Remote media
> via Supermicro IPMI in 2021? SMB1. Firmware updates for my UPS? FTP.
> Scanner/printer/fax all-in-one thingy? Uploads received fax transmissions
> via FTP. PBX? Uploads usage reports via FTP. This stuff is here to stay.
> In local networks, of course.
> 
> But still even on "the Internet", FTP is the most used method for customers
> of static website hosting. You cannot teach these people what an SSH key is.
> Just my experience, but backed by a load of customer interactions over more
> than 20 years ...
> 
> Kind regards,
> Patrick
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