File system issues

[Adrian Chadd]

I think the main reason this happened is that there wasn't a nice
consensus on what made sense for the disk layout. The existing rules
weren't going to cut it for TB+ sized disks. What good is having a
small root, a small swap and an /enormous/ /usr that took up the whole
disk anyway?

If someone wants to come up with patches to the installer to let us do
this in a more sane way with the larger number of gpt partitions we
get - then please by all means submit patches. Same goes for the newfs
flag. Same goes for toggling on/off soft-updates and/or journaling.


-adrian

On 25 October 2014 23:36, Ian Smith <smithi at nimnet.asn.au> wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 12:11:16 -0700, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
>  > On Oct 25, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Kurt Jaeger <lists at opsec.eu> wrote:
>  >
>  > > I always disable journaling, because I had many failures with that
>  > > in the past:
>  > >
>  > > tunefs -j disable <partition>
>  >
>  > I turn it off because you cannot snapshot a journaled filesystem,
>  > which breaks live dumps.
>  >
>  > It would be helpful if there was a way in the installer to toggle the
>  > default setting for 'journaled' before carving out the filesystems.
>  > It's moderately annoying to have to go through the option settings
>  > for all the filesystems to turn this off.
>
> And if you do go back into the options settings for a filesystem, the
> options you have changed, like turning off journaling, have been (or at
> least, appear to have been) reset to defaults, so you can't just check
> what you've already set, but have to start again.
>
> What I _really_ miss from sysinstall(8) is the ability to toggle the
> newfs flag.  What you need to do now if you wish to preserve an existing
> filesystem - quite commonly /home - is very deliberately NOT select that
> filesystem from those detected, finish the install then manually, later,
> readd that fs to /etc/fstab AND remove the created symlink from /home to
> /usr/home, recreate /home as a directory, AFTER moving created dotfiles
> if you forgot to NOT create a non-root user during install.  Relatively
> new users wouldn't have the slightest clue about needing to do that.
>
> But then, the general expectation that new users will want a linux-style
> single / directory - sure, fine for VM use - cruels the potential to use
> dump and restore anyway.  It's a bit sad that this is still outstanding.
>
> cheers anyway, Ian
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