Increasing the DMESG buffer....
Lars Engels
lars.engels at 0x20.net
Fri Nov 23 10:33:24 UTC 2012
Am 23.11.2012 05:50, schrieb Ian Smith:
> On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 16:20:52 -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Gary Palmer <gpalmer at freebsd.org>
> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 02:14:59PM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> > >> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Adrian Chadd
> <adrian at freebsd.org> wrote:
> > >> > On 22 November 2012 06:30, Alexander Motin <mav at freebsd.org>
> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Neither ICH, nor any other driver I know have amount of
> information
> > >> >> comparable to what HDA hardware provides. So the analogy is
> not good.
> > >> >> Respecting that most CODECs have no published datasheets,
> that information
> > >> >> is the only input for debugging.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> snd_hda also uses hw.snd.verbose=3. But it is used for even
> deeper driver
> > >> >> debugging. It also enables a lot of debugging in sound(4),
> that can be too
> > >> >> verbose for HDA debugging.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I will recheck again how can it be reorganized, but I think
> that the real
> > >> >> problem is not in HDA. We need some way to structure and
> filter the output.
> > >> >
> > >> > I honestly would like to just see it spat out using a
> userland tool,
> > >> > rather than having the kernel print that level of topology
> data out.
> > >> >
> > >> > It's highly unlikely that a topology problem is going to
> cause a
> > >> > system to not boot, right? So the kernel itself doesn't need
> to be
> > >> > able to spit that data out.
> > >>
> > >> Maybe I'm missing something, but the data needed to adjust HDAC
> is
> > >> available from 'sysctl dev.hdaa'. I have not looked at the
> verbose
> > >> output in quite a while, but I think it is mstly or entirely
> hte
> > >> information in that and 'sysctl dev.hdac'. I never needed to
> look
> > >> elsewhere to get mine set up properly.
>
> Kevin, could you check
> http://bsd-geek.de/FreeBSD/T61_dmesg.boot.10.works
> - the ~85k example I used - against what the sysctl presents on
> yours?
>
> With the caveat that I don't have a snd_hda, I suspect the initial
> information from hdacc0 and hdaa0 up to before "DUMPING HDA NODES" is
> likely useful in verbose boot, assuming all of the nid info is
> available
> by sysctl? Also the pcm0 and pcm1 data might be limited to that
> without
> "DUMPING PCM Playback/Record Channels", "DUMPING Playback/Record
> Paths"
> and "DUMPING Volume Controls", leaving in the mixer info as
> traditional
> - again assuming that sysctl access covers it? Clearly basic
> discovery
> of the particular wiring, routing etc should remain in verbose dmesg.
>
> > >> Also, isn't the entire verbose boot captured in /var/run/dmesg?
> > >
> > > Only if the message buffer hasn't overflowed before the utility
> runs to
> > > populate the file
> >
> > Ouch! I did miss hte obvious. Thanks for pointing this out.
>
> I've noticed quite a few truncated verbose dmesgs posted over the
> last
> couple of years, sometimes frustratingly starting after important
> stuff
> like the CPU info or ACPI tables etc .. Lars presumably had increased
> his buffer size to capture 85k, which would be well less than
> Adrian's
> suggested 64k with more minimal hda + pcm logging. Perhaps a
> debug.snd.
> or something tunable could reenable the higher verbosity if/when
> needed?
No, I was creating the dmesg on a vanilla FreeBSD 10-CURRENT kernel and
the other one on PC-BSD 9.1-RCsomething.
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