CLARITY re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature
withbuggy 6.3
Paul Schmehl
pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com
Wed Jun 11 18:22:36 UTC 2008
--On Wednesday, June 11, 2008 16:54:02 +0100 Robert Watson
<rwatson at FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008, Andy Kosela wrote:
>
>> Redhat/CentOS is more reliable here as backports involves both security and
>> bug fixes, plus even new hardware enhancements.
>
> In the FreeBSD environment, we call the place that gets a blend of security
> and bug fixes, plus new minor feature and driver enhancements "-STABLE", and
> the releases that pick up these changes "point releases". They happen more
> requently and with less risk than major releases, but still see enough
> development to represent functional improvements.
>
> I guess here's my concern: we offer a spectrum of choice for "I want the most
> bleeding edge" to "I want no feature changes, just security fixes", and
> several points in between. We can argue about the exact placement of this
> points, but the reality is that the balance we have today seems to work well
> for many developers and users, and reflects a fairly carefully planned use of
> the available revision control and distribution technology.
>
> The place for volunteers to come in is where they see an obvious niche for
> improvement -- for example, a few years ago this guy named Colin Percival
> turned up with a binary update system. After a couple of years of
> enhancement, breaking it in, etc, it's now a standard tool for maintaining
> FreeBSD systems, and he's our security officer. Similar opportunities exist
> for offering easier updates to packages, etc, but require people who have a
> clear need and the technical ability to do the work to turn up and do it.
>
>From a security standport, backporting fixes to previous versions of ports
creates a difficulty. It's much harder to tell, for example, if a RedHat
"port" is vulnerable or not, because RedHat uses their own proprietary
versioning system to define "where" a particular "port" is at.
So, while your system might *say* it's running php version 5.2, it's really
*not* vulnerable because in RedHatese it's version 5.2.1.6.92000.p-2.1 (I'm
just making that up.)
If this idea ever gets off the ground, I *hope* the folks involved with find a
rational, logical way to define the versioning so that it's not hieroglyphics
to the average person.
--
Paul Schmehl
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my opinions are my own and not
those of my employer.
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