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> 1. install xorg question .... (William A. Mahaffey III)
> 2. ipfw question .... (William A. Mahaffey III)
> 3. Re: ipfw question .... (Matthew Seaman)
> 4. Re: ipfw question .... (Mike Tancsa)
> 5. Re: install xorg question .... (Matthew Seaman)
> 6. Re: ipfw question .... (William A. Mahaffey III)
> 7. Re: install xorg question .... (William A. Mahaffey III)
> 8. ps question .... (William A. Mahaffey III)
> 9. Re: ps question .... (Polytropon)
> 10. Re: Freebsd-update to 9.3 from 9.2 (Victor Sudakov)
> 11. Re: ps question .... (William A. Mahaffey III)
> 12. Re: ps question .... (Polytropon)
> 13. X11 setup .... (William A. Mahaffey III)
> 14. Re: cpio and hard links (Victor Sudakov)
> 15. pkg schema upgrade? (Patrick)
> 16. Re: pkg schema upgrade? (Matthew Seaman)
> 17. Re: X11 setup .... (doug)
> 18. pkg-register question (doug at safeport.com)
> 19. Re: X11 setup .... (William A. Mahaffey III)
> 20. tcsh login question .... (William A. Mahaffey III)
> 21. Re: ipfw question .... (Mike Tancsa)
> 22. Re: pkg-register question (Matthew Seaman)
> 23. Re: tcsh login question .... (kpneal at pobox.com)
> 24. pkg upgrade failed again (Jamie Griffin)
> 25. watchdog timeout msk0 (Martin Smith)
> 26. Re: X11 setup .... (doug)
> 27. Re: pkg-register question (doug)
> 28. Re: Freebsd-update to 9.3 from 9.2 (Andrew Berg)
> 29. seriously hacked off!! Re: pkg upgrade failed again
> (Jamie Griffin)
> 30. Re: X11 setup .... (William A. Mahaffey III)
> 31. BIOS monitoring goodies .... (William A. Mahaffey III)
> 32. Re: TCP/IP on the way out? (Perry Hutchison)
> 33. Re: X11 setup .... (doug)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 09:02:19 -0500
> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam at hiwaay.net>
> To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> Subject: install xorg question ....
> Message-ID: <53E629EB.7050604 at hiwaay.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>
>
> I am rying to install xorg-7.7 under FreeBSD 9.3 apparently needed by
> XFCE. I get the following:
>
>
> [root at kabini1, /etc, 8:56:00am] 353 % pkg install xorg-7.7
> Updating repository catalogue
> FreeBSD repository is up-to-date
> All repositories are up-to-date
> The following 131 packages will be affected (of 0 checked):
>
> New packages to be INSTALLED:
> xorg: 7.7
> xorg-libraries: 7.7_1
> .
> .
> .
> xf86-input-keyboard: 1.8.0_2
>
> The process will require 98 MB more space
> 37 MB to be downloaded
>
> Proceed with this action [y/N]: y
> Fetching xorg-apps-7.7.txz: 100% of 2 kB
> pkg: xorg-apps-7.7 failed checksum from repository
> [root at kabini1, /etc, 8:56:19am] 354 %
>
>
> I had already fetched the 1st part of the list. How do I work around
> this :-/ ?
>
>
> --
>
> William A. Mahaffey III
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war
> ever devised by man."
> -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 09:15:35 -0500
> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam at hiwaay.net>
> To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> Subject: ipfw question ....
> Message-ID: <53E62D07.2030703 at hiwaay.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>
>
> Why is there a limit on the # of logged denials by ipfw ?
>
>
> Aug 6 18:52:20 kabini1 kernel: ipfw: limit 500 reached on entry 65500
>
>
> --
>
> William A. Mahaffey III
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war
> ever devised by man."
> -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:14:56 +0100
> From: Matthew Seaman <matthew at FreeBSD.org>
> To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: ipfw question ....
> Message-ID: <53E62CE0.6040807 at FreeBSD.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On 09/08/2014 15:15, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
> > Why is there a limit on the # of logged denials by ipfw ?
> >
> >
> > Aug 6 18:52:20 kabini1 kernel: ipfw: limit 500 reached on entry 65500
>
> Because otherwise someone could DoS you by causing ipfw to fill up a
> partition with log messages simply by sending a stream of packets at you
> over the network.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew
>
> --
> Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.
> PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:15:10 -0400
> From: Mike Tancsa <mike at sentex.net>
> To: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam at hiwaay.net>, "FreeBSD Questions
> !!!!" <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> Subject: Re: ipfw question ....
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> On 8/9/2014 10:15 AM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
> >
> >
> > Why is there a limit on the # of logged denials by ipfw ?
>
> The limit is there to prevent conditions where syslog would be
> overwhelmed with hits, as in the case for example of a DoS. You can
> change it as discussed in the man pages
>
>
> If net.inet.ip.fw.verbose is set to 1, packets will be logged to
> syslogd(8) with a LOG_SECURITY facility up to a maximum of logamount
> packets. If no logamount is specified, the limit is taken from the
> sysctl variable net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit. In both cases, a value of
> 0 means unlimited logging.
>
> Once the limit is reached, logging can be re-enabled by clearing the
> logging counter or the packet counter for that entry, see the resetlog
> command.
>
> ---Mike
>
>
> --
> -------------------
> Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400
> Sentex Communications, mike at sentex.net
> Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net
> Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:26:25 +0100
> From: Matthew Seaman <m.seaman at infracaninophile.co.uk>
> To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: install xorg question ....
> Message-ID: <53E62F91.8020100 at infracaninophile.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On 09/08/2014 15:02, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
> > I am rying to install xorg-7.7 under FreeBSD 9.3 apparently needed by
> > XFCE. I get the following:
>
> > [root at kabini1, /etc, 8:56:00am] 353 % pkg install xorg-7.7
> > Updating repository catalogue
> > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date
> > All repositories are up-to-date
> > The following 131 packages will be affected (of 0 checked):
> >
> > New packages to be INSTALLED:
> > xorg: 7.7
> > xorg-libraries: 7.7_1
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > xf86-input-keyboard: 1.8.0_2
> >
> > The process will require 98 MB more space
> > 37 MB to be downloaded
> >
> > Proceed with this action [y/N]: y
> > Fetching xorg-apps-7.7.txz: 100% of 2 kB
> > pkg: xorg-apps-7.7 failed checksum from repository
> > [root at kabini1, /etc, 8:56:19am] 354 %
> >
> >
> > I had already fetched the 1st part of the list. How do I work around
> > this :-/ ?
>
> This is quite possibly a bug that occurs when upgrading from pkg-1.2.7
> to pkg-1.3.5.1. The solution is to run:
>
> # pkg clean -a
> # pkg update -f
>
> That will delete everything you've got in your package cache and force
> pkg to refetch all the catalogues from the repositories you're using.
>
> Oh -- depending on your hardware, you might want to use the new-xorg
> repository. See
>
> https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics
> https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics/WITH_NEW_XORG
> http://daemon-notes.com/articles/desktop/kde
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew
>
> --
> Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.
>
> PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey
> JID: matthew at infracaninophile.co.uk
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 09:39:15 -0500
> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam at hiwaay.net>
> To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> Subject: Re: ipfw question ....
> Message-ID: <53E63293.3090901 at hiwaay.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> On 08/09/14 09:15, Mike Tancsa wrote:
> > On 8/9/2014 10:15 AM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Why is there a limit on the # of logged denials by ipfw ?
> >
> > The limit is there to prevent conditions where syslog would be
> > overwhelmed with hits, as in the case for example of a DoS. You can
> > change it as discussed in the man pages
> >
> >
> > If net.inet.ip.fw.verbose is set to 1, packets will be logged to
> > syslogd(8) with a LOG_SECURITY facility up to a maximum of logamount
> > packets. If no logamount is specified, the limit is taken from the
> > sysctl variable net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit. In both cases, a value
> > of 0 means unlimited logging.
> >
> > Once the limit is reached, logging can be re-enabled by clearing the
> > logging counter or the packet counter for that entry, see the resetlog
> > command.
> >
> > ---Mike
> >
> >
>
>
> Hmmmm .... OK, sounds good. I would like a bit more granularity on
> deciding what to log & what to not log. For example, 99% of the time, I
> would drop denials from my LAN, except when I am trying to figure out
> why I can't get NFS working, for example. I'd like to be able to choose
> that when I (re)start ipfw. I am using the default rc.firewall located
> in /etc, BTW. I might like to specify denial-logging by protocol *and*
> port #, rather than just por
> t # .... Is there a way to implement any of
> this ? Thanks & TIA ....
>
> --
>
> William A. Mahaffey III
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war
> ever devised by man."
> -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 09:47:55 -0500
> Fro
> m: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam at hiwaay.net>
> To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: install xorg question ....
> Message-ID: <53E6349B.7070900 at hiwaay.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> On 08/09/14 09:26, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> > On 09/08/2014 15:02, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
> >> I am rying to install xorg-7.7 under FreeBSD 9.3 apparently needed by
> >> XFCE. I get the following:
> >> [root at kabini1, /etc, 8:56:00am] 353 % pkg install xorg-7.7
> >> Updating repository catalogue
> >> FreeBSD repository is up-to-date
> >> All repositories are up-to-date
> >> The following 131 packages will be affected (of 0 checked):
> >>
> >> New packages to be INSTALLED:
> >> xorg: 7.7
> >> xorg-libraries: 7.7_1
> >> .
> >> .
> >> .
> >> xf86-input-keyboard: 1.8.0_2
> >>
> >> The process will require 98 MB more space
> >> 37 MB to be downloaded
> >>
> >> Proceed with this action [y/N]: y
> >> Fetching xorg-apps-7.7.txz: 100% of 2 kB
> >> pkg: xorg-apps-7.7 failed checksum from repository
> >> [root at kabini1, /etc, 8:56:19am] 354 %
> >>
> >>
> >> I had already fetched the 1st part of the list. How do I work around
> >> this :-/ ?
> > This is quite possibly a bug that occurs when upgrading from pkg-1.2.7
> > to pkg-1.3.5.1. The solution is to run:
> >
> > # pkg clean -a
> > # pkg update -f
> >
> > That will delete everything you've got in your package cache and force
> > pkg to refetch all the catalogues from the repositories you're using.
> >
> > Oh -- depending on your hardware, you might want to use the new-xorg
> > repository. See
> >
> > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics
> > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics/WITH_NEW_XORG
> > http://daemon-notes.com/articles/desktop/kde
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Mat
> thew
> >
>
>
> Thanks, worked like a champ !!!!!
>
>
> --
>
> William A. Mahaffey III
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war
> ever devised by man."
> -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:01:00 -0500
> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam at hiwaay.net>
> To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> Subject: ps question ....
> Message-ID: <53E637AC.3010008 at hiwaay.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>
>
> .... is there a way to get ps to show me *everything* running ? 'ps
> -elf' works nicely under Fedora 14 ....
>
>
> --
>
> William A. Mahaffey III
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war
> ever devised by man."
> -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 17:01:50 +0200
> From: Polytropon <freebsd at edvax.de>
> To: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam at hiwaay.net>
> Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> Subject: Re: ps question ....
> Message-ID: <20140809170150.0b1c9486.freebsd at edvax.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:01:00 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
> >
> >
> > .... is there a way to get ps to show me *everything* running ? 'ps
> > -elf' works nicely under Fedora 14 ....
>
> What about "ps aux"? See "man ps" for details.
>
>
>
> --
> Polytropon
> Magdeburg, Germany
> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 22:08:16 +0700
> From: Victor Sudakov <vas at mpeks.tomsk.su>
> To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Freebsd-update to 9.3 from 9.2
> Message-ID: <20140809150815.GA65785 at admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Andrew Berg wrote:
> > The best thing to do since you need to build world and kernel is to
> > just use svn and do all updates via source. freebsd-update does
> > nothing for you. Grab a completely new copy of the 9.3 source with
> > svn and then build and install it.
>
> Would it be safe to use freebsd-update to install binary security patches
> after upgrading a system from source?
>
>
> --
> Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
> sip:sudakov at sibptus.tomsk.ru
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:18:08 -0500
> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam at hiwaay.net>
> To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> Subject: Re: ps question ....
> Message-ID: <53E63BB0.2080700 at hiwaay.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> On 08/09/14 10:01, Polytropon wrote:
> > On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:01:00 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
> >>
> >> .... is there a way to get ps to show me *everything* running ? 'ps
> >> -elf' works nicely under Fedora 14 ....
> > What about "ps aux"? See "man ps" for details.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Thanks, I forgot about the different behavior w/ & w/o the minus sign
> :-/ ....
>
> --
>
> William A. Mahaffey III
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war
> ever devised by man."
> -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 17:22:39 +0200
> From: Polytropon <freebsd at edvax.de>
> To: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam at hiwaay.net>
> Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> Subject: Re: ps question ....
> Message-ID: <20140809172239.ae877c88.freebsd at edvax.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:18:08 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
> > On 08/09/14 10:01, Polytropon wrote:
> > > On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:01:00 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
> > >>
> > >> .... is there a way to get ps to show me *everything* running ? 'ps
> > >> -elf' works nicely under Fedora 14 ....
> > > What about "ps aux"? See "man ps" for details.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Thanks, I forgot about the different behavior w/ & w/o the minus sign
> > :-/ ....
>
> As far as I can tell, there is no difference in behaviour.
> The commands
>
> % ps aux
>
> and
>
> % ps -aux
>
> as well as
>
> % ps -a -u -x
>
> produce the same output.
>
>
>
> --
> Polytropon
> Magdeburg, Germany
> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:44:03 -0500
> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam at hiwaay.net>
> To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> Subject: X11 setup ....
> Message-ID: <53E641C3.4040409 at hiwaay.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>
> .... I am following the instructions at
> [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.h
> tml to get my newly installed xorg setup. I stepped through everything
> up to the 'Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro' which didn't fail, bit
> didn't behave quite like it was supposed to .... Machine is AMD Jaguar
> Kabini based, quad core, 1.3 GHz, 25W, gfx on die:
> Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 kernel: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU with
> Radeon(tm) R3 (1297.59-MHz K8-class CPU)
> xorg detects it as: BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series]"
> The above test is supposed to give a black & grey grid on the screen,
> w/ an X-mouse. I have the mouse, & it moves around, although
> click-&-drag does nothing, & I might have the grid, although it is
> pixel-by-pixel, not finitely sized grid .... The troubleshooting page
> is little help .... Am I good to go or not :-/ ? TIA ....
> --
>
> William A. Mahaffey III
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war
> ever devised by man."
> -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
>
> References
>
> 1. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 23:17:45 +0700
> From: Victor Sudakov <vas at mpeks.tomsk.su>
> To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: cpio and hard links
> Message-ID: <20140809161745.GB65785 at admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
> >
> >
> > Given a directory "tmp" which contains two files, "foo" and "bar",
> > both of which are merely hard links to one another, the following
> > command will, apparently, produce an archive of the directory in
> > question which contains only a single instance of the actual file
> > contents:
> >
> > tar cvf tmp.tar tmp
> >
> > The resulting tmp.tar file can later be unpacked, using tar, resulting
> > in a directory structure which exactly mirrors the original "tmp"
> > directory, including preservation of the hard link(s).
> >
> > I note however that, given the same original directory structure, the
> > following command generates an archive file containing two complete
> > instances of the file data:
> >
> > find tmp -depth -print | cpio -ovm > tmp.cpio
> >
> > For the the cpio program that is part of FreeBSD, is there any option
> > which would have the effect of causing cpio to only archive a single
> > instance of the data associated with each unique inode... as tar apparently
> > does, by default?
>
> Try 'cpio -H ustar'.
>
>
> --
> Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
> sip:sudakov at sibptus.tomsk.ru
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:21:30 -0700
> From: Patrick <gibblertron at gmail.com>
> To: FreeBSD Questions <questions at freebsd.org>
> Subject: pkg schema upgrade?
> Message-ID:
> <CA+dWbmYd1=6pu8-BGhSYg66thLm4HNai6t=gpJRDGv16B8nC2A at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> I'm getting the following warning/error with pkg on FreeBSD 10 (since it
> self-updated to 1.3.5.1:
>
>
> pkg: Repo FreeBSD needs schema upgrade from 2006 to 2010 but it is opened
> readonly
>
> pkg: need to re-create repo FreeBSD to upgrade schema version
>
>
> It sure would be nice if in addition to saying what needs to happ
> en, it
> said how to make it happen. I don't see anything in the man page that talks
> about this, and my Google-fu is failing me.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 17:42:54 +0100
> From: Matthew Seaman <matthew at FreeBSD.org>
> To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: pkg schema upgrade?
> Message-ID: <53E64F8E.7080401 at FreeBSD.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On 09/08/2014 17:21, Patrick wrote:
> > I'm getting the following warning/error with pkg on FreeBSD 10 (since it
> > self-updated to 1.3.5.1:
> >
> >
> > pkg: Repo FreeBSD needs schema upgrade from 2006 to 2010 but it is opened
> > readonly
> >
> > pkg: need to re-create repo FreeBSD to upgrade schema version
> >
> >
> > It sure would be nice if in addition to saying what needs to happen, it
> > said how to make it happen. I don't see anything in the man page that talks
> > about this, and my Google-fu is failing me.
>
> # pkg clean -a
> # pkg update -f
>
> should restore sanity.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew
>
> --
> Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.
> PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey
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> ge: 17
> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 13:03:20 -0400 (EDT)
> From: doug <doug at fledge.watson.org>
> To: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam at hiwaay.net>
> Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> Subject: Re: X11 setup ....
> Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.11.1408091258160.96880 at fledge.watson.org>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Sat, 9 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
>
> > .... I am following the instructions at
> > [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.h
> > tml to get my newly installed xorg setup. I stepped through everything
> > up to the 'Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro' which didn't fail, bit
> > didn't behave quite like it was supposed to .... Machine is AMD Jaguar
> > Kabini based, quad core, 1.3 GHz, 25W, gfx on die:
> > Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 kernel: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU with
> > Radeon(tm) R3 (1297.59-MHz K8-class CPU)
> > xorg detects it as: BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series]"
> > The above test is supposed to give a black & grey grid on the screen,
> > w/ an X-mouse. I have the mouse, & it moves around, although
> > click-&-drag does nothing, & I might have the grid, although it is
> > pixel-by-pixel, not finitely sized grid .... The troubleshooting page
> > is little help .... Am I good to go or not :-/ ? TIA ....
> > --
> Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Errors are somewhat esoteric unless you know a lot
> about X11 but they are clearly marked. You can subscribe to the X11 mailing list
> or just search the archives of that list.
>
> You can see if you are good to go by trying startx.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 13:39:42 -0400 (EDT)
> From: doug at safeport.com
> To: freebsd-questions at FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: pkg-register question
> Message-ID:
> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1408091325180.41601 at bucksport.safeport.com>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII
>
> I think this was a user error. I have been making & killing systems (vmware is
> cool) to figure out pkg and how to use freebsd-update to update jails. So I am
> fuzzy on things I did not actually document along the way.
>
> Anyway I was checking a system that had pkg, subversion, and ezjail. All were
> registered except ezjail. I could tell from /usr/ports that I had build it so I
> must have done so before adding 'WITH_PKGNG=yes' to make.conf.
>
> I assumed one would fix this with 'pkg register' but after man and google I
> decided to use 'pkg check -r -v -a'. This [seemingly] worked.
>
> The logical thing would seem to be 'pkg register -x ezjail'. Except no such
> syntax exists. Does 'pkg register metadatafile' mean use the full name?
>
> _____
> Douglas Denault
> http://www.safeport.com
> doug at safeport.com
> Voice: 301-217-9220
> Fax: 301-217-9277
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 13:22:40 -0500
> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam at hiwaay.net>
> To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> Subject: Re: X11 setup ....
> Message-ID: <53E666F0.809 at hiwaay.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> On 08/09/14 12:03, doug wrote:
> > On Sat, 9 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
> >
> >> .... I am following the instructions at
> >> [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.h
> >> tml to get my newly installed xorg setup. I stepped through everything
> >> up to the 'Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro' which didn't fail, bit
> >> didn't behave quite like it was supposed to .... Machine is AMD Jaguar
> >> Kabini based, quad core, 1.3 GHz, 25W, gfx on die:
> >> Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 kernel: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU with
> >> Radeon(tm) R3 (1297.59-MHz K8-class CPU)
> >> xorg detects it as: BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series]"
> >> The above test is supposed to give a black & grey grid on the screen,
> >> w/ an X-mouse. I have the mouse, & it moves around, although
> >> click-&-drag does nothing, & I might have the grid, although it is
> >> pixel-by-pixel, not finitely sized grid .... The troubleshooting page
> >> is little help .... Am I good to go or not :-/ ? TIA ....
> >> --
> > Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Errors are somewhat esoteric unless you
> > know a lot about X11 but they are clearly marked. You can subscribe to
> > the X11 mailing list or just search the archives of that list.
> >
> > You can see if you are good to go by trying startx.
> >
>
>
> Thanks. My question was poorly articulated, should have been 'am I OK
> for XFCE ?' .... I plunged on & started XFCE, & it works mostly pretty
> good, but the gfx is definitely spotty, lotta flickering, background on
> desktop looks a bit dicey, window frames are granular & flickery. I just
> looked through /var/log/Xorg.0.log & there are *no* errors (no '(EE)'s)
> .... what now :-/ ....
>
> --
>
> William A. Mahaffey III
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war
> ever devised by man."
> -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 13:27:12 -0500
> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam at hiwaay.net>
> To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> Subject: tcsh login question ....
> Message-ID: <53E66800.8000005 at hiwaay.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>
>
> .... when I shell into my newly minted FreeBSD 9.3 desktop, or login w/
> a console login, everything under tcsh gets initialized AOK. I then
> activated xdm to manage logins (I like it that way), the /ect/csh.login
> file clearly does *not* get sourced. I have many aliases, prompt
> setting, & other goodies which are absent. The tcsh manpage clearly says
> it will be sourced at login, what gives ?
>
>
> --
>
> William A. Mahaffey III
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war
> ever devised by man."
> -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 14:26:26 -0400
> From: Mike Tancsa <mike at sentex.net>
> To: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam at hiwaay.net>, "FreeBSD Questions
> !!!!" <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> Subject: Re: ipfw question ....
> Message-ID: <53E667D2.7070601 at sentex.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
> On 8/9/2014 10:39 AM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> If net.inet.ip.fw.verbose is set to 1, p
> ackets will be logged to
> >> syslogd(8) with a LOG_SECURITY facility up to a maximum of logamount
> >> packets. If no logamount is specified, the limit is taken from the
> >> sysctl variable net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit. In both cases, a value
> >> of 0 means unlimited logging.
> >>
> >> Once the limit is reached, logging can be re-enabled by clearing the
> >> logging counter or the packet counter for that entry, see the resetlog
> >> command.
> >>
> >> ---Mike
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > port #, rather than just port # .... Is there a way to implement any of
> > this ? Thanks & TIA ....
>
>
> It there in the man pages of ipfw how to do it on a per rule basis.
> logamount can be set on a per rule basis.
>
> ---Mike
>
>
> --
> -------------------
> Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400
> Sentex Communications, mike at sentex.net
> Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net
> Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 19:39:32 +0100
> From: Matthew Seaman <m.seaman at infracaninophile.co.uk>
> To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: pkg-register question
> Message-ID: <53E66AE4.7040004 at infracaninophile.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On 09/08/2014 18:39, doug at safeport.com wrote:
> > I think this was a user error. I have been making & killing systems
> > (vmware is cool) to figure out pkg and how to use freebsd-update to
> > update jails. So I am fuzzy on things I did not actually document along
> > the way.
> >
> > Anyway I was checking a system that had pkg, subversion, and ezjail. All
> > were registered except ezjail. I could tell from /usr/ports that I had
> > build it so I must have done so before adding 'WITH_PKGNG=yes' to
> > make.conf.
> >
> > I assumed one would fix this with 'pkg register' but after man and
> > google I decided to use 'pkg check -r -v -a'. This [seemingly] worked.
> >
> > The logical thing would seem to be 'pkg register -x ezjail'. Except no
> > such syntax exists. Does 'pkg register metadatafile' mean use the full
> > name?
>
> That's not really the intended use for pkg-register. It takes a
> previously written +MANIFEST which describes some software that has
> already been installed on a system and inserts the data from the
> +MANIFEST plus checksums etc it calculates from the installed files into
> the package database. The +MANIFEST is the 'metadatafile' the man page
> is talking about.
>
> Before staging, this was the way the ports operated. Now, with staging,
> you use the very similar pkg-create to build a package from the staging
> area, and then simply install that package. Not sure what the long term
> plans are for 'pkg register' but making it obsolete in the future
> probably should not be discounted.
>
> What you probably wanted was 'pkg convert' -- or in fact, the pkg2ng
> script which is basically a wrapper around pkg convert.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew
>
> --
> Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.
>
> PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey
> JID: matthew at infracaninophile.co.uk
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> Message: 23
> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:43:02 -0400
> From: kpneal at pobox.com
> To: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam at hiwaay.net>
> Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> Subject: Re: tcsh login question ....
> Message-ID: <20140809194302.GA62677 at neutralgood.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Sat, Aug 09, 2014 at 01:27:12PM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
> >
> >
> > .... when I shell into my newly minted FreeBSD 9.3 desktop, or login w/
> > a console login, everything under tcsh gets initialized AOK. I then
> > activated xdm to manage logins (I like it that way), the /ect/csh.login
> > file clearly does *not* get sourced. I have many aliases, prompt
> > setting, & other goodies which are absent. The tcsh manpage clearly says
> > it will be sourced at login, what gives ?
>
> That file doesn't get sourced because tcsh is not run as a "login shell"
> when run from whatever that gets run by xdm. This is correct since logging
> into an X11 session is not the same as logging into a shell session.
>
> It sounds like you need to move a good chunk of your /etc/csh.login file
> into the /etc/csh.cshrc file instead.
> --
> Kevin P. Neal http://www.pobox.com/~kpn/
>
> "Nonbelievers found it difficult to defend their position in \
> the presense of a working computer." -- a DEC Jensen paper
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 20:48:31 +0100
> From: Jamie Griffin <griffin8j at gmail.com>
> To: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> Subject: pkg upgrade failed again
> Message-ID: <53E67B0F.2010500 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Just waited 9 hours for all the new packages to download to find this
> happens:
>
> Checking for upgrades: 100%
> Assertion failed: (var == elt->var), function pkg_solve_sat_problem,
> file pkg_solve.c, line 508.
> Child process pid=5148 terminated abnormally: Abort trap
>
> When with a problematic package qt4-qtestlib conflicting with
> qt4-testlib, pkg upgraded itself to 1.3.3 first, I thought the solver
> was supposed to sort things like this?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 25
> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 20:55:36 +0100
> From: Martin Smith <lists at rakupottery.org.uk>
> To: questions at freebsd.org
> Subject: watchdog timeout msk0
> Message-ID: <53E67CB8.5050000 at rakupottery.org.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I am just installing 10.0 onto a Vaio VGN-SR41N and am getting watchdog
> timeout on the built in msk0, the system does not seem to recognise an
> expresscard startech EC1000S which has a realtek chip.
> I remember the watchdog timeout from years ago on
> older systems, though
> not on this machine, can someone remind me and point me in the right
> direction, cheers
>
> --
> Martin
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 26
> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:37:55 -0400 (EDT)
> From: doug <doug at fledge.watson.org>
> To: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam at hiwaay.net>
> Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> Subject: Re: X11 setup ....
> Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.11.1408091628040.96880 at fledge.watson.org>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Sat, 9 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
>
> > On 08/09/14 12:03, doug wrote:
> >> On Sat, 9 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
> >>
> >>> .... I am following the instructions at
> >>> [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.h
> >>> tml to get my newly installed xorg setup. I stepped through everything
> >>> up to the 'Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro' which didn't fail, bit
> >>> didn't behave quite like it was supposed to .... Machine is AMD Jaguar
> >>> Kabini based, quad core, 1.3 GHz, 25W, gfx on die:
> >>> Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 kernel: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU with
> >>> Radeon(tm) R3 (1297.59-MHz K8-class CPU)
> >>> xorg detects it as: BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series]"
> >>> The above test is supposed to give a black & grey grid on the screen,
> >>> w/ an X-mouse. I have the mouse, & it moves around, although
> >>> click-&-drag does nothing, & I might have the grid, although it is
> >>> pixel-by-pixel, not finitely sized grid .... The troubleshooting page
> >>> is little help .... Am I good to go or not :-/ ? TIA ....
> >>> --
> >> Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Errors are somewhat esoteric unless you know a
> >> lot about X11 but they are clearly marked. You can subscribe to the X11
> >> mailing list or just search the archives of that list.
> >>
> >> You can see if you are good to go by trying startx.
> >
> > Thanks. My question was poorly articulated, should have been 'am I OK for
> > XFCE ?' .... I plunged on & started XFCE, & it works mostly pretty good, but
> > the gfx is definitely spotty, lotta flickering, background on desktop looks a
> > bit dicey, window frames are granular & flickery. I just looked through
> > /var/log/Xorg.0.log & there are *no* errors (no '(EE)'s) .... what now :-/
> > ....
> Ah - my desktop of choice. The X11 list might help. I excel at choosing PCs
> whose video card are not supported. However flickering and worse in my
> experience has meant driver errors. Have you tried the vesa driver? You will not
> get the full use of the card but if that driver does not work it may mean
> hardware issues. If you have a windows partition, it is good to test the
> hardware.
>
> I am afraid this one is above my pay grade :(
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 27
> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:46:57 -0400 (EDT)
> From: doug <doug at fledge.watson.org>
> To: Matthew Seaman <m.seaman at infracaninophile.co.uk>
> Cc: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: pkg-register question
> Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.11.1408091638580.96880 at fledge.watson.org>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Sat, 9 Aug 2014, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> [cut]
> > That's not really the intended use for pkg-register. It takes a
> > previously written +MANIFEST which describes some software that has
> > already been installed on a system and inserts the data from the
> > +MANIFEST plus checksums etc it calculates from the installed files into
> > the package database. The +MANIFEST is the 'metadatafile' the man page
> > is talking about.
> >
> > Before staging, this was the way the ports operated. Now, with staging,
> > you use the very similar pkg-create to build a package from the staging
> > area, and then simply install that package. Not sure what the long term
> > plans are for 'pkg register' but making it obsolete in the future
> > probably should not be discounted.
>
> Thank you that was exactly the information I was seeking
>
> > What you probably wanted was 'pkg convert' -- or in fact, the pkg2ng
> > script which is basically a wrapper around pkg convert.
>
> Excellent - thanks again
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 28
> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:00:00 -0500
> From: Andrew Berg <aberg010 at my.hennepintech.edu>
> To: <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> Subject: Re: Freebsd-update to 9.3 from 9.2
> Message-ID: <53E68BD0.5090209 at my.hennepintech.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On 2014.08.09 10:08, Victor Sudakov wrote:
> > Andrew Berg wrote:
> >> The best thing to do since you need to build world and kernel is to
> >> just use svn and do all updates via source. freebsd-update does
> >> nothing for you. Grab a completely new copy of the 9.3 source with
> >> svn and then build and install it.
> >
> > Would it be safe to use freebsd-update to install binary security patches
> > after upgrading a system from source?
> Since you have your own changes, no. IIRC, there are instructions in the
> announcements for building only what has changed so that you do not need to
> rebuild the entire world and kernel.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 29
> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 22:12:47 +0100
> From: Jamie Griffin <griffin8j at gmail.com>
> To: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> Subject: seriously hacked off!! Re: pkg upgrade failed again
> Message-ID: <53E68ECF.3070006 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
>
> On 09/08/2014 20:48, Jamie Griffin wrote:
> > Just waited 9 hours for all the new packages to download to find this
> > happens:
> >
> > Checking for upgrades: 100%
> > Assertion failed: (var == elt->var), function pkg_solve_sat_problem,
> > file pkg_solve.c, line 508.
> > Child process pid=5148 terminated abnormally: Abort trap
> >
> > When with a problematic package qt4-q
> testlib conflicting with
> > qt4-testlib, pkg upgraded itself to 1.3.3 first, I thought the solver
> > was supposed to sort things like this?
> Once again pkg has completely f**ked up my packages and i'll have to
> remove everything and start over. That's the second time in as many
> months. Why are these things released when they cause so many problems
> for people. I actually dread upgrading FreeBSD now because I know it's
> going to involve stress.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 30
> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:32:26 -0500
> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam at hiwaay.net>
> To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> Subject: Re: X11 setup ....
> Message-ID: <53E6936A.900 at hiwaay.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> On 08/09/14 15:37, doug wrote:
> > On Sat, 9 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
> >
> >> On 08/09/14 12:03, doug wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 9 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> .... I am following the instructions at
> >>>> [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.h
> >>>>
> >>>> tml to get my newly installed xorg setup. I stepped through
> >>>> everything
> >>>> up to the 'Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro' which didn't fail, bit
> >>>> didn't behave quite like it was supposed to .... Machine is AMD
> >>>> Jaguar
> >>>> Kabini based, quad core, 1.3 GHz, 25W, gfx on die:
> >>>> Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 kernel: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU with
> >>>> Radeon(tm) R3 (1297.59-MHz K8-class CPU)
> >>>> xorg detects it as: BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3
> >>>> Series]"
> >>>> The above test is supposed to give a black & grey grid on the
> >>>> screen,
> >>>> w/ an X-mouse. I have the mouse, & it moves around, although
> >>>> click-&-drag does nothing, & I might have the grid, although it is
> >>>> pixel-by-pixel, not finitely sized grid .... The troubleshooting
> >>>> page
> >>>> is little help .... Am I good to go or not :-/ ? TIA ....
> >>>> --
> >>> Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Errors are somewhat esoteric unless you
> >>> know a lot about X11 but they are clearly marked. You can subscribe
> >>> to the X11 mailing list or just search the archives of that list.
> >>>
> >>> You can see if you are good to go by trying startx.
> >>
> >> Thanks. My question was poorly articulated, should have been 'am I OK
> >> for XFCE ?' .... I plunged on & started XFCE, & it works mostly
> >> pretty good, but the gfx is definitely spotty, lotta flickering,
> >> background on desktop looks a bit dicey, window frames are granular &
> >> flickery. I just looked through /var/log/Xorg.0.log & there are *no*
> >> errors (no '(EE)'s) .... what now :-/ ....
> > Ah - my desktop of choice. The X11 list might help. I excel at
> > choosing PCs whose video card are not supported. However flickering
> > and worse in my experience has meant driver errors. Have you tried the
> > vesa driver? You will not get the full use of the card but if that
> > driver does not work it may mean hardware issues. If you have a
> > windows partition, it is good to test the hardware.
> >
> > I am afraid this one is above my pay grade :(
> > _______________________________________________
> > freebsd-questions at freebsd.org mailing list
> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to
> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe at freebsd.org"
> >
>
>
> It's already on the vesa driver, & the 'gfx card' is on die w/ the CPU
> .... No sweat, I figured I might have a few glitches w/ such new
> hardware .... When you say X11 list, do you mean the FreeBSD/X11 list,
> or X.org ? Thanks :-) ....
>
>
> --
>
> William A. Mahaffey III
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war
> ever devised by man."
> -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 31
> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:47:29 -0500
> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam at hiwaay.net>
> To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> Subject: BIOS monitoring goodies ....
> Message-ID: <53E696F1.9050102 at hiwaay.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>
>
> .... Linux has myriad tools, utilities, apps, etc. (hddtemp, lmsensors,
> jwclock, etc.) for monitoring info from the BIOS &/or OS hardware info
> .... Surely there must be some such for FreeBSD, could someone point me
> to them :-) ? TIA ....
>
>
> --
>
> William A. Mahaffey III
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war
> ever devised by man."
> -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 32
> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 14:38:11 -0700
> From: perryh at pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison)
> To: odhiambo at gmail.com
> Cc: questions at freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: TCP/IP on the way out?
> Message-ID: <53e694c3.Z9pgoYYlNshz0fcD%perryh at pluto.rain.com>
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> Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have seen this article which sounds much like a dream, but seems true.
> > http://www.networkworld.com/article/2459286/why-tcp/why-tcp/ip-is-on-the-way-out.html
> > I'd love to hear the views of those who understand the network stack.
>
> I haven't read the article -- the page crashed Firefox -- but the
> idea of anything replacing TCP/IP reminds me of:
>
> They who do not understand TCP are doomed to reinvent it, poorly.
>
> I think that quote may have originated with Henry Spencer.
>
>
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> Message: 33
> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 18:55:18 -0400 (EDT)
> From: doug <doug at fledge.watson.org>
> To: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam at hiwaay.net>
> Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> Subject: Re: X11 setup ....
> Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.11.1408091850330.96880 at fledge.watson.org>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Sat, 9 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
>
> > On 08/09/14 15:37, doug wrote:
> >> On Sat, 9 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 08/09/14 12:03, doug wrote:
> >>>> On Sat, 9 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> .... I am following the instructions at
> >>>>> [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.h
> >>>>> tml to get my newly installed xorg setup. I stepped through everything
> >>>>> up to the 'Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro' which didn't fail, bit
> >>>>> didn't behave quite like it was supposed to .... Machine is AMD Jaguar
> >>>>> Kabini based, quad core, 1.3 GHz, 25W, gfx on die:
> >>>>> Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 kernel: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU with
> >>>>> Radeon(tm) R3 (1297.59-MHz K8-class CPU)
> >>>>> xorg detects it as: BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series]"
> >>>>> The above test is supposed to give a black & grey grid on the screen,
> >>>>> w/ an X-mouse. I have the mouse, & it moves around, although
> >>>>> click-&-drag does nothing, & I might have the grid, although it is
> >>>>> pixel-by-pixel, not finitely sized grid .... The troubleshooting page
> >>>>> is little help .... Am I good to go or not :-/ ? TIA ....
> >>>>> --
> >>>> Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Errors are somewhat esoteric unless you know
> >>>> a lot about X11 but they are clearly marked. You can subscribe to the X11
> >>>> mailing list or just search the archives of that list.
> >>>>
> >>>> You can see if you are good to go by trying startx.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks. My question was poorly articulated, should have been 'am I OK for
> >>> XFCE ?' .... I plunged on & started XFCE, & it works mostly pretty good,
> >>> but the gfx is definitely spotty, lotta flickering, background on desktop
> >>> looks a bit dicey, window frames are granular & flickery. I just looked
> >>> through /var/log/Xorg.0.log & there are *no* errors (no '(EE)'s) .... what
> >>> now :-/ ....
> >> Ah - my desktop of choice. The X11 list might help. I excel at choosing PCs
> >> whose video card are not supported. However flickering and w
> orse in my
> >> experience has meant driver errors. Have you tried the vesa driver? You
> >> will not get the full use of the card but if that driver does not work it
> >> may mean hardware issues. If you have a windows partition, it is good to
> >> test the hardware.
> >>
> >> I am afraid this one is above my pay grade :(
> >>
> >
> > It's already on the vesa driver, & the 'gfx card' is on die w/ the CPU ....
> > No sweat, I figured I might have a few glitches w/ such new hardware ....
> > When you say X11 list, do you mean the FreeBSD/X11 list, or X.org ? Thanks
> > :-) ....
> >
> "FreeBSD X11 mailing list" <freebsd-x11 at freebsd.org> is the one I follow. I am
> hoping for a solution to the console switching issue. Either list is probably
> okay for this issue.
>
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