FBSD jail versus VMWare? What services do YOU run in a jail?

[Victor Sudakov]

Fbsd8 wrote:
> > 
> >> As the number of running jails increase the 
> >> difficultly of managing them also increases. ezjail has no provisions
> >> to address this problem. qjail on the other hand is designed from the 
> >> ground floor to simplify the administration of large scale jail 
> >> environments [1 to 2000+ jails]. 
> > 
> > Where can I read more about the unique and advanced features of qjail
> > missing in ezjail?
> 
> I have never come across a feature comparison between the two. But qjail 
> is a fork of an old ezjail-3.1 version so much of the feel is the same.
> 
> http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/sysutils/qjail/pkg-descr?revision=HEAD
> This link is a good place to start, then pkg install qjail & ezjail and 
> read their man pages for the details your looking for.

I am looking for someone to persuade me that qjail is in any way
superior to ezjail which I am already using :-) If qjail has some killer
feature, I am ready to look at it, but I must know why I should invest
my time into learning qjail.

> 
> > 
> > I am especially interested in features which help update and upgrade
> > multiple jails and software therein.
> > 
> > I must admit it's a bit of PITA in ezjail when it comes to upgrading
> > third party software. I have set up a pkg repository for that purpose,
> > but still I have to visit each jail individually and run "pkg upgrade"
> > from inside.
> > 
> >
> 
> 
> jail updates is really 2 different arenas. You have the update of the 
> host system binaries and the update of ports.
> 
> ezjail relies on the old "make buildworld" method. 

Sorry, your information is outdated. ezjail supports binary upgrades
via freebsd-update.

> 
> The second arena is updating your installed ports. Before 10.0 and pkgng 
> this was always a time consuming task. 

 From the point of view of using pkgng, I don't see why I should
prefer qjail to ezjail, they seem the same.

-- 
Victor Sudakov,  VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
sip:sudakov at sibptus.tomsk.ru