desktop app/config

Thu Feb 19 09:35:50 PST 2009

> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:19:09 -0500
> From: jnatola at familycareintl.org
> To: millenia2000 at hotmail.com; jerrymc at msu.edu
> CC: questions at freebsd.org
> Subject: RE: desktop app/config
> 
> That's sounds like what I'm looking for, however, when you say login with no
> user or password- I'm not sure if I like that because our fileserver is going
> to have to authenticate them at some point as will access to the printers so
> somewhere somehow I need a login no?
> 

What i was refering to was having a basic user with no system authority such as deleting files and whatnot on the local machine. dont want inexperienced user screwing up a perfectly fine system.

if you have a file/print server set up then you are correct and should prob use a password for the user account. i was assuming local access only. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sean Cavanaugh [mailto:millenia2000 at hotmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:17 PM
> To: Jean-Paul Natola; jerrymc at msu.edu
> Cc: questions at freebsd.org
> Subject: RE: desktop app/config
> 
> 
> > Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:05:08 -0500
> > From: jnatola at familycareintl.org
> > To: jerrymc at msu.edu
> > CC: questions at freebsd.org
> > Subject: RE: desktop app/config
> > 
> > I think we went off track a bit- I do know freebsd- my mail filter is a
> > FreeBSD with clam exim and sa- but I NEVER use the gui's - I want to setup
> > some "recycled" machines with bsd and a gui that will be easy for a user to
> > grasp- I have mac users and pc users here-
> > 
> > But thanks for all the tips- I currently use ee for editing 
> 
> 
> I think what you are looking for overall would prob be a baseline install
> with either Gnome or KDE installed. Personally I prefer Gnome but KDE is more
> MSWindows like in its interface. You can go as far as to skin either of them
> to look like MSWindows.
> 
> setup a basic user with no system control and no password for users to log in
> with and change /etc/ttys so that ttyv8 is turned on and set to GDM or KDM
> (depending on which you want to use).
> 
> Definitely configure what additional software you need installed per your
> needs.
> 
> -Sean
> 
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc at msu.edu] 
> > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:00 PM
> > To: Jean-Paul Natola
> > Cc: questions at freebsd.org
> > Subject: Re: desktop app/config
> > 
> > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:27:30AM -0500, Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > I'm replacing some machines and want to setup some stations in the
> library
> > > running FreeBSD- 
> > > 
> > > What is the easiest for an XP user to get accustomed to and what config
> do
> > I
> > > need so that when the machine starts (power / boot) it will automatically
> > > launch the desktop gui
> > 
> > The easiest way to get used to it is to just fully install the latest
> FreeBSD
> > (that is 7.1 at the moment) RELEASE, update it to RELENG_7 or RELENG_7_1
> > so it has the latest patches. Install Xorg for Xwindows so you will have
> > graphics. Then install a few handy ports from the /usr/ports tree.
> > Some you will want are Firefox and Thunderbird and Openoffice, although
> > you may want to install Openoffice from a binary package rather than
> > from ports. Openoffice is very big and building it can be daunting
> > for a newbie. Some other good candidates might be Apache and Perl
> > and maybe a couple of games for fun.
> > 
> > Then, just start using it. Learn to find things you need on the system. 
> > and configure the network securely. There is lots of documentation in
> > the FreeBSD Handbook and other places online. The more you do it, the
> > more they make sense.
> > 
> > One thing to learn is using the vi(1) text editor. There are many
> > other editors, but for system management, vi is the omnipresent,
> ubiquitious
> > one. It is sometimes the only one available in times when bad things
> > are happening. It feels rather clunky when you first start to use it
> > but it quickly becomes second nature. The FreeBSD man page is pretty
> > good on it. I have a web page that simplifies it a little at: 
> > 
> > http://z2.cl.msu.edu/~jerrymc/project/editvi/
> > 
> > There are a number of books available that help learning FreeBSD.
> > 
> > "FreeBSD Unleashed" and "Absolute BSD" are a couple of them
> > The FreeBSD Handbook which is online at the FreeBSD web site and
> > is installed if you want it when FreeBSD is installed is quite good.
> > The FreeBSD site also has other documents and links listed.
> > 
> > At first, it will seem a little strange. Generally FreeBSD is command
> > oriented, not pointy/clicky oriented. That is a much more powerful way
> > to administer a system, but it takes more initial learning.
> > 
> > Ask questions. People on the list have already heard all the common
> > complaints and gripes that FreeBSD is not like MS-Win dozens of times.
> > The usual response is "Thank God" or something similar. Anyway, they
> > are not interested in hearing whines again. But, if you have a real
> > question about 'how to do' something or even 'why is it done this way'
> > and not just grousing, people on the list are usually very good about
> > giving answers. List people are very interested in helping people 
> > learn, but not interested in people complaining. 
> > 
> > If it is a bug, post a pr. If it is a feature request, remember that 
> > FreeBSD is created and maintained by volunteers - very smart ones - but 
> > they have limits on time and resources so your request may take a very 
> > long time to get attention. You may well learn how to do it yourself 
> > and then submit it as an improvement before then.
> > 
> > Good luck and have fun.
> > 
> > ////jerry 
> > 
> > > 
> > > thanx
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