Out of the frying pan...

[Kevin Kinsey]

John wrote:

>On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 11:35:49PM -0800, Joshua Tinnin wrote:
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>>On Saturday 15 January 2005 09:57 pm, John <john at starfire.mn.org> wrote:
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>>>On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:47:13PM -0800, Joshua Tinnin wrote:
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>>>>On Saturday 15 January 2005 07:23 pm, John <john at starfire.mn.org> 
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>>wrote:
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>>>>>Oh, and figure out WHAT is going on with Konqueror.  On some web
>>>>>sites, it is just fine and dandy, but on other web sites, it just
>>>>>is GLACIAL. I'm talking about MINUTES to render a page.  The CPU
>>>>>isn't busy, there's no IO going on - I have NO IDEA what it is
>>>>>waiting for. It's so bad, it stretches credibility.  Then, as I
>>>>>said, on other web sites, it's just fine.  Sometimes is stops
>>>>>with 94% loaded and just waits a couple minutes - sometimes it
>>>>>pauses with like "12 out of 19 image loaded," and sometimes it
>>>>>pauses just as soon as it resolves the new URL and connects to
>>>>>the server. VERY odd.
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>>>>Well, it just told you what's happening. It's waiting to load some
>>>>images and the page won't render until it happens. IIRC, this
>>>>happens because of image tags without size parameters, though I'm
>>>>not entirely
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>>>Thanks for your response, Joshua!
>>>
>>>Well, your answer is very reasonable given the information I
>>>supplied, but it is not what's happening.  I can have my Windoze
>>>work-owned laptop next to it on the table, and it will load up
>>>these pages in a snap.  Konqueror isn't getting any data - it sits
>>>there with nothing happening - no data coming across the network.
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>>You may have an issue with DNS. You should have DNS servers listed in 
>>your /etc/resolv.conf, like this:
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>>nameserver      888.888.888.888
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>>(the number is an example - you should use your ISP's nameserver or your 
>>internal one, if you've set it up)
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>>Is this also an issue with other browsers or network software? If you 
>>haven't done so already, you should try Firefox or Opera and see if 
>>Konqueror is the problem.
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>Opera does not have this problem.  It appears to be unique to
>Konqueror.  Odd - but I was going to shop around for a different
>browser, anyway.
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Month late, kilodollars short.  Probably I'm just griping, but some food
for thought:

Oh, the cruft that gets put on the WWW these daze.  ActiveX,
Java applets, Flash, bla bla ... unless you're sure that you were only
looking at sites displaying *relatively compliant* (X)HTML, you can't trust
just any site to  work on just any browser without a lot of often
hair-raising work  in browser configuration and installation of plugins. 

There's a whole bunch of $PLURAL_ADJECTIVE_NOUN out there who
don't know about standards and don't care, and they are quite responsible
for a number of my griefs with browsers on FreeBSD.

The other day I followed a link that led to some site with an "Any Da _ _
Browser" logo.  Loved the thought, and we should all do that --- there
are standards.  But, of course, I can't use that graphic on most of my 
sites....

Kevin Kinsey