> i want to learn something that is capable to run applications on the > web but is totally separated from the html meaning i HATE doing this > If using PHP then give Smarty a try: http://smarty.php.net/rightforme.php Thanks, -- Scott A. Gerhardt, P.Geo. Gerhardt Information Technologies On Oct 26, 2004, at 12:02 AM, Gert Cuykens wrote: