Ok, just to be certain about this. I have 4.8 installed and am about to do a cvsup here is my stable-supfile > *default host=cvsup1.us.freebsd.org > *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 > *default delete use-rel-suffix > > src-all > And I put my refuse file in /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/ Am I ready to roll?