[CFT] lang/python becoming a python binary wrapper

[The BSD Dreamer]

On 2013-08-17 09:55, Marcus von Appen wrote:
> On 17.08.2013, at 11:22, Kubilay Kocak <koobs.freebsd at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 17/08/2013 7:01 PM, Marcus von Appen wrote:
>>> On, Sat Aug 17, 2013, Kubilay Kocak wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 17/08/2013 6:13 PM, Marcus von Appen wrote:
>>>>> The relevant UPDATING entry for the change will look like:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 20130817:
>>>>>  AFFECTS: users of lang/python*
>>>>>  AUTHOR: mva at FreeBSD.org
>>>>> 
>>>>>  The lang/python* ports do not install links to 2to3, idle, pydoc, 
>>>>> python
>>>>>  and other binaries anymore. Those were moved into the lang/python2 and
>>>>>  lang/python3 ports. If you have lang/python2* or lang/python3* 
>>>>> installed,
>>>>>  please also install the associated lang/python2 or lang/python3 port.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  1. update lang/python2* and/or lang/python3*
>>>>>  2. install lang/python2 and/or lang/python3
>>>>>  3. reinstall lang/python (if installed).
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think, the instructions should suffice. Please let me know, if you
>>>>> feel that more details are necessary.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Marcus
>>>> 
>>>> Minor tweak:
>>>> 
>>>> The lang/python* ports no longer install links to 2to3, idle, pydoc,
>>>> python and other binaries. These have been moved into lang/python2 and
>>>> lang/python3 ports respectively. This change allows ... brief
>>>> explanation of benefit here.
>>>> 
>>>> Also, what are the "other" binaries, and are they worth mentioning
>>>> explicitly?
>>> 
>>> They are not worth mentioning in my opinion, since those would be the
>>> shared builds (python-shared) and config binaries 
>>> (python-{shared}-config).
>>> 
>>> Right now I would not want to name any specific benefit, since this
>>> could give users the wrong impression that it is available already and
>>> something like
>>> 
>>>  This change allows the FreeBSD python ports to be used with different
>>>  Python versions at the same time as a mid-term goal.
>>> 
>>> or
>>> 
>>>  This change will enable other Python implementations to act as default
>>>  Python interpreter in the future.
>>> 
>>> feels to vague to me. If you think, it's worth mentioning, I'll put it
>>> in, though.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Marcus
>> 
>> Concur, it ought to be clear. How's this:
>> 
>> This change brings us closer to the goal of making Python ports usable
>> with different Python versions at the same time.
>> 
> 
> Sounds good, thanks.

What wasn't clear was that this applied to everybody, whether they knowingly 
installed lang/python2* or lang/python3*, or not.  Since, installing a port 
that wants the python results in lang/python27 being installed by default 
(and still does.)

So, when I tried updating www/firefox with portmaster this morning, it broke 
python for everything by updating only lang/python27 for me.  What happens to 
the many other fresh systems when somebody builds their first port that pulls 
in the default python, which is lang/python27, but that's not enough for 
satisfy the dependency?

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