FreeBSD 10.1 PPC64 on XServe G5 hangs at Openfirmware Loader [likely an example of a long standing problem]
Nathan Whitehorn
nwhitehorn at freebsd.org
Fri Dec 19 06:04:44 UTC 2014
I believe there is a similar issue affecting sparc64. It seems like the
ISO9660 support in loader may be broken on big-endian systems. Can you
check if the ppc64 memstick image boots OK?
-Nathan
On 12/18/14 18:29, Bill Sorenson wrote:
>
> I can confirm that 10.1-RELENG and 10-STABLE will boot at least an
> XServe G5 when built from source on a running 10.0-RELEASE install.
> Problem appears specific to the iso from what I can tell. Although
> I've been wrong before. I'm not sure how the isos are generated in the
> release process so no idea if it makes sense.
>
> -Bill S.
>
> On Dec 18, 2014 8:22 PM, "Mark Millard" <markmi at dsl-only.net
> <mailto:markmi at dsl-only.net>> wrote:
>
> I've included a reminder (a past exchange) that makes this report
> sounds like a long standing problem with powerpc64 10.x-STABLE
> .iso's burned to CDs for PowerMac G5's.
>
> As I remember 10.0-RELEASE's .iso worked and is eventually how I
> bootstrapped. 10.1-RELEASE did not work when I tried it. (See
> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-November/007328.html
> .)
>
> I've never had 10.x-STABLE .iso's work in a PowerMac G5. (I've no
> XServe access, just access to some desktop PowerMac G5's.) My
> tries do not go all the way back to the first 10.0-STABLE .iso,
> however. As I remember I started trying in 2014-Apr or so.
> Eventually I stopped checking each new 10.0-STABLE but did check
> some as time went on.
>
>
> From: Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn at freebsd.org
> <mailto:nwhitehorn at freebsd.org>>
> Subject: Re: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? [.iso based
> CD boot problems exist for PowerMac G5's too]
> Date: July 26, 2014 at 11:40:28 PM PDT
> To: Mark Millard <markmi at dsl-only.net
> <mailto:markmi at dsl-only.net>>, freebsd-ppc at freebsd.org
> <mailto:freebsd-ppc at freebsd.org>
>
> Interesting. It seems loader is broken. I just tried with a
> 10.0-STABLE image and can reproduce the problem -- 11 oddly is OK.
> What really perplexes me is that the powerpc and powerpc64 loaders
> are identical, since loader is built 32-bit in either case. Super
> weird. I'll try to get it fixed. Thanks for the problem report and
> reminder!
> -Nathan
>
> On 07/26/14 23:33, Mark Millard wrote:
>
> To make clear about the "/" in the line:
>
> and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The
> fans then gradually spin up.
>
> This "progress indicator" is the repeating sequence -, \, |, /. It
> always stopped with / as I remember. But I've no clue for if that
> is from the repeating sequence or is the leading / from
> /boot/kernel/kernel. At this point I'm limited to reporting just
> the visual result, not the internal stage it is tied to.
>
> ===
> Mark Millard
> markmi at dsl-only.net <http://dsl-only.net>
>
> On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Mark Millard <markmi at dsl-only.net
> <mailto:markmi at dsl-only.net>> wrote:
> First I quote what I wrote about when the hangups occur on the
> G5's (combining quotes from the two messages so the overall notes
> are easier to understand):
>
> For a C-key style boot it hangs shortly after displaying
>
> loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf
>
> and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The
> fans then gradually spin up.
>
> In other words: It hangs just before it would normally display the
> line that includes the text: /boot/kernel/kernel
>
> The original messages were:
>
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007029.html
> and
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007056.html
>
> Even the /b prefix from /boot/kernel/kernel did not show up even
> though /boot/defaults/loader.conf did show up just fine.
>
>
>
> As for trying 11-CURRENT: I've not tried 11-CURRENT for anything
> yet. And, unfortunately, I'm now away from the PowerMacs for weeks
> so I will not be doing new experiments for several weeks. I can
> try once I get back.
>
> All the 9.2/9.3-STABLE's that I tried worked. And 10.0-RELELASE
> worked. Any 10.0-STABLE from before about Apr-27 I've never tried:
> Late April is about when I started the experiments with PowerMacs.
>
> Also: I had no troubles with 10.0-STABLE for powerpc on PowerMacs.
> PowerPC64 on PowerMac G5's is where I had problems. (I do not have
> other kinds of PowerPC equipment available.)
>
>
>
> ===
> Mark Millard
> markmi at dsl-only.net <http://dsl-only.net>
>
> On Jul 26, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Mark Millard <markmi at dsl-only.net
> <mailto:markmi at dsl-only.net>> wrote:
> This boot issue from .iso's (burned to CDs) is not specific to
> emulation (assuming it is the same problem in both places).
>
> I'm afraid that it sounds like PowerMac G5's hang the same
> way/place whenever I've tried a fairly modern PowerPC64
> 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to a CD. I was able to boot 10.0-RELEASE's
> .iso burned to a CD. I've not tried emulation.
>
> Having an initial FreeBSD running I tend to use the MANIFEST and
> .txz files with "bsdinstall auto" to make new from-scratch (not
> buildworld/buildkernel) installations when I want such.
>
> My notes on the G5 boot issue for the .iso's burned to CD's were
> reported in: (I'm not near the PowerMacs, unfortunately)
>
> FreeBSD 10-STABLE powerpc64 r266807 CD PowerMac7, 2 (and 7, 11)
> boot hangs very early in the process
>
> Has anyone booted a G5 PowerMac from a recent 10.0-STABLE .iso
> burned to CD? A multi-processor one?
>
> ===
> Mark Millard
> markmi at dsl-only.net <http://dsl-only.net>
>
>
>
>
>
> ===
> Mark Millard
> markmi at dsl-only.net <http://dsl-only.net>
>
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