kde4 packages, WITHOUT_NEW_XORG fails
Patrick Powell
papowell at astart.com
Sun Jul 6 04:01:18 UTC 2014
On 07/04/14 16:28, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Patrick Powell <papowell at astart.com
> <mailto:papowell at astart.com>> wrote:
>
> On 07/04/14 14:23, Koop Mast wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> On 4-7-2014 22:49, Kevin Oberman wrote:
>
>
> This discussion begs the question of why won't
> WITH_NEW_XORG work for you?
> I am aware of some pretty old hardware that simply has no
> support in recent
> Xorg servers, but these are pretty old by now. And, as
> time passes, the bit
> rot will make more and more things fail with the old code.
>
> I am far from an X expert, but a post to x11@ of the
> failure you see
> WITH_NEW_XORG including the Xorg.0.log, /etc/make.conf,
> /etc/src.conf and
> any Xorg.conf you are using might get things working (and
> might not). x11@
> is a far better place to ask any of the questions about X
> issues.
>
> I should also recommend that, if you have not already
> tried, move your
> Xorg.conf aside and let X try to configure itself. It is
> very rare to
> require a full configuration these days. Most only need
> things for added
> fonts and extra modules. The xorg.conf on my laptop is
> only about 27 lines
> long and mostly added fonts.
>
> ports/UPDATING states:
> 20140218:
> AFFECTS: users of KDE SC 4
> AUTHOR: kde at FreeBSD.org
>
> KDE SC ports have been updated to 4.12.2. kdeadmin,
> kdenetwork, kdesdk,
> and kdetoys ports have been split due to upstream changes.
>
> KDE Workspace port has been updated to 4.11.6. It requires
> modern
> Mesa libraries, provided by WITH_NEW_XORG knob. To update
> Xorg ports
> to newer version follow instructions at
> https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics
>
> So it not possible anymore to run KDE4 with WITHOUT_NEW_XORG.
>
> -Koop
>
> Ahhh!!! I missed that.
>
> If this is the case, then perhaps the default for generating the
> PKGNG repository should be WITH_NEW_XORG?
> Then we could use the PKGNG respository for KDE4 applications.
>
> OR: we could have two repositories: one which uses
> WITHOUT_NEW_XORG and has the old Xorg drivers and no KDE4 support
> and one with WITH_NEW_XORG which has the new Xorg drivers and KDE4
> support.
>
> I think I read some discussion about this possibility but I can't
> recall the outcome.
>
>
> Your timing is MOST excellent. Koop just announced those repositories
> were available a few hours ago.
> http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=306646+0+current/freebsd-announce
>
> The repositories cover 9.x and 10.x for i386 and amd64.
> --
> R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired
> E-mail: rkoberman at gmail.com <mailto:rkoberman at gmail.com>
Huzzah! Hurrah.... Ummm... hold on a bit here...
No 8.4 support? Why not just toss it in, with the usual:
Warning! Here there be dragons. Or at least untested and verified
packages. These have been compiled with make.conf containing:
MAKE_NEW_XORG=yes
At least doing this will provide KDE4 packages in an easy to access
fashion. As for the XORG support, this seems to work fine for me as
well, so I do not need compatibility with the old drivers...
Yes, yes... sloth.
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