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[Nikolas Britton]

Tom Huppi wrote:

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>On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, Nikolas Britton wrote:
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>>Tom Huppi wrote:
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>>>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Cesar Mello wrote:
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>>>>FreeBSD is an excellent OS, I just dream with a GUI that's not as
>>>>heavy as currently xorg is.
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>>>Xorg seems to be the real sticking point.  FreeBSD's virtual
>>>memory subsystem has long been very good at adjusting to limited
>>>resources (dunno if Linux has caught up in this respect yet.)
>>>Matt Dillon wrote a nice technical description of how the VM
>>>subsystem takes a certain number of page hits in order to gage
>>>usage and adjust.  It was quite noticeable in terms of
>>>responsiveness back in the old days.
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>>There is nothing wrong with Xorg and it is lightwight, the problem is
>>what you run on it:
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>I guess there are different interpretation of 'lightweight'
>
>Your machine is stronger in memory terms than the one I'm using at
>the moment, and it seems that your Xorg is using more mem
>(although we have about the same amount resident.)  Is your build
>of Xorg a standard ports build or package or something at all
>special? 
>
most are built with some type of opt flags but nothing radical.

> (I'm wondering if Xorg itself adjusts at load time based
>on resource availability.)  Oh...how much mem do you have on your
>graphics adapter?
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GeForce2 GTS w/64MB....nvidia-driver-1.0.6113_3

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