It's time to shut down this list.

[Nikolas Britton]

M. Warner Losh wrote:

>In message: <41D18150.3030104 at nbritton.org>
>            Nikolas Britton <freebsd at nbritton.org> writes:
>: M. Warner Losh wrote:
>: 
>: >In message: <41D16A0F.4000909 at nbritton.org>
>: >            Nikolas Britton <freebsd at nbritton.org> writes:
>: >: Unless your a member of core or have been at one time your voice is 
>: >: unheard...
>: >
>: >Clearly you have no idea about how core works.  I've read every single
>: >message in this thread, but have thought it better to let it run its
>: >coarse to see what the consensus of the community was.  That's clearly
>: >listening to the voices of all those concerned.
>: >
>: >Warner
>: >
>: >  
>: >
>: I was generalizing. but now that I got your ear what is the core team 
>: doing about PR and Martketing, and why is the "Public Relations & 
>: Corporate Liaison" seat open? see the "FreeBSD's Visual Identity: 
>: Outdated?" and freebsd foundation threads on -questions for more info.
>
>We are well aware of the issues here, and have talked about them in
>some depth.  We'd planned on launching our efforts to fix the
>problems, if any truly exist, after the first of the year when people
>are back from their holidays. 
>
Thats good to know, sounds like some progress... keep us informed and 
I'm willing to help if needed.

> Also, there's never been a PR seat, so
>to complain that it is open is like complaining that the village idiot
>seat is open...  That critism is unwarranted.  
>
Ok (sorry), then there is the first thing to fix, delete it from this 
page: 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/staff-who.html

>In the past, PR has
>been done by the cdrom companies, but their monitary incentives for
>doing that is now way down since cdrom sales have dropped so much over
>the years.  The FreeBSD Foundation is an independent entity, over
>which core has no control.
>
>Warner
>
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