RFC: Enabling VIMAGE in GENERIC
Alfred Perlstein
alfred at freebsd.org
Mon Nov 17 17:47:53 UTC 2014
On 11/17/14, 3:02 AM, Warner Losh wrote:
> On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc at FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> PROPOSAL
>> ==========
>> I would like to get feedback on the following proposal.
>> In the head branch (CURRENT), I would like to enable
>> VIMAGE with this commit:
>>
>>
>> PATCH
>> ======
>>
>> Index: sys/conf/NOTES
>> ===================================================================
>> --- sys/conf/NOTES (revision 274300)
>> +++ sys/conf/NOTES (working copy)
>> @@ -784,8 +784,8 @@
>> device mn # Munich32x/Falc54 Nx64kbit/sec cards.
>>
>> # Network stack virtualization.
>> -#options VIMAGE
>> -#options VNET_DEBUG # debug for VIMAGE
>> +options VIMAGE
>> +options VNET_DEBUG # debug for VIMAGE
>>
>> #
>> # Network interfaces:
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to enable VIMAGE for the following reasons:
>>
>> REASONS
>> ========
>>
>> (1) VIMAGE cannot be enabled off to the side in a separate library or
>> kernel module. When enabled, it is a kernel ABI incompatible change.
>> This has impact on 3rd party code such as the kernel modules
>> which come with VirtualBox.
>> So the time to do it in CURRENT is now, otherwise we can't consider
>> doing it until FreeBSD-12 timeframe, which is quite a while away.
>>
>> (2) VIMAGE is used in some 3rd party products, such as FreeNAS.
>> These 3rd party products are mostly happy with VIMAGE,
>> but sometimes they encounter problems, and FreeBSD doesn't
>> see these problems because it is disabled by default.
>>
>> (3) Most of the major subsystems like ipfw and pf have been fixed for
>> VIMAGE, and the only
>> way to shake out the last few issues is to make it the default and
>> get feedback from the community. ipfilter still needs to be
>> VIMAGE-ified.
>>
>>
>> (4) Not everyone uses bhyve. FreeBSD jails are an excellent virtualization
>> platform for FreeBSD. Jails are still very popular and
>> performant. VIMAGE makes jails even better by allowing per-jail
>> network stacks.
>>
>> (5) Olivier Cochard-Labbe has provided good network performance results
>> in VIMAGE vs. non-VIMAGE kernels:
>>
>>
>> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2014-October/040091.html
>>
>> (6) Certain people like Vitaly "wishmaster" <artemrts at ukr.net> have been
>> running VIMAGE
>> jails in a production environment for quite a while, and would like
>> to see it
>> be the default.
>>
>>
>> ACTION PLAN
>> ===========
>>
>> (1) Coordinate/communicate with portmgr, since this has kernel ABI
>> implications
>>
>> (2) Work with clusteradm@, and try to get a test instance of one of the
>> PF firewalls in the cluster working with a VIMAGE enabled kernel.
>>
>> (3) Take a pass through http://wiki.freebsd.org/VIMAGE/TODO
>> and
>> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=vimage%20or%20vnet
>> and try to clean things up. Get help from net@ developers to do
>> this.
> And if these don’t get cleaned up?
If they are not cleaned/stable up by 11-RELEASE then we turn it off.
That is simple.
>
>> (4) Take a pass on trying to VIMAGE-ify ipfilter. I'll need help from
>> the ipfilter maintainers for this and some net@ developers.
> And if this doesn’t happen?
Well we do have 2 other firewalls in the kernel to pick, but we do need
VIMAGE so I will let you draw your own conclusions.
-Alfred
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