packet order, ipf or ipfw

[Charlie Schluting]

Hello..

I'm running ipf because I like it ...but now I need to use ipfw's pipe 
feature. I was thinking that I could just run both, and keep all my 
rules in ipf, then in ipfw: limit bandwidth for a few vlans, then allow all.

It didn't work (no rate-limiting happened).. and I'm thinking that ipf 
is passing the packets and bypassing ipfw? Or something..

So, what is the order, if I'm running ipf AND ipfw at the same time? 
Will it work at all in this manner?

Thanks!
-Charlie