[Bulk] Re: snd_envy24{,ht} recording support?

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Wed, 2013-03-20 at 11:30 +0000, Tom Evans wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Ralf Mardorf
> <ralf.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2013-03-20 at 08:52 +0100, Yamagi Burmeister wrote:
> >> On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:19:59 +0100
> >> David Demelier <demelier.david at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> The need for high end add
> >> in sound cards is much lower than 10 years ago.
> >
> > That's not true, if you want to replace your HiFi gear by a computer,
> > you need a good sound card too, that anyway, will be less expensive than
> > good HiFi gear. _All_ on-board devices are crap!
> 
> Well, digital data either works without corruption or doesn't work.
> 
> You can spend as much money on a sound card as you like, but if the
> sound card is only outputting digital data over SPDIF to a separate
> DAC, then there is no difference between the cheapest card and the
> most expensive card, both would sound identical.

I don't like consumer SPDIF, but this is OT now, indeed I'm thinking of
analog IOs.

So I'll rephrase my claim: Analog IOs and D/A, A/D converters of _all_
on-board devices are crap!

Yes, if SPDIF should work, it should be without loss, even for those
on-board devices. There anyway could be quality issues, but that also
could happen with professional gear.