Laptop suggestions?
Nenhum_de_Nos
matheus at eternamente.info
Thu Jul 24 21:04:46 UTC 2008
On Thu, July 24, 2008 17:21, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:39:22PM +0800, Zamri Besar wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Frank Mayhar <frank at exit.com> wrote:
>>
>> > My old Dell Inspiron 5160 has developed problems that I can't fix,
>> sigh,
>> > so it's time to replace it. I'm hoping for some good suggestions from
>> > this list (cc'd to hackers for the exposure, I know everyone doesn't
>> > read -mobile).
>> >
>> > My criteria:
>> > * 3D acceleration.
>> > * MiniPCI wireless (don't care which card, I'll replace it
>> > anyway).
>> > * At least 15" screen.
>> > * Decent power consumption.
>> > * Plays well with FreeBSD 7-stable.
>> >
>> > Nice to have:
>> > * Dual core.
>> > * >4GB memory.
>> > * Working suspend/hibernate mode (and no, I'm not holding my
>> > breath).
>> >
>> > So, suggestions? BTW, if I get a decent response I'll summarize it
>> for
>> > the list, along with the one I chose and my experience after
>> > ordering/installing it.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> If cost is not a big problem, then IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad Series (I prefer
>> T-series) is the best from my past experiences. And you may check
>> following
>> articles for further tips/advices:
>>
>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/laptop/index.html
>> http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/
>> http://tuxmobil.org/mobile_bsd.html
>>
>> and off-course, freebsd-mobile archive:
>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile
>
> And if you go with Lenovo, be aware that their T60/T60p/T61/T61p series
> (and possibly the X-series) are known to sport very high temperatures.
> Some people have reported temperatures of nearly 90C on their GPU (when
> idling), which has a direct effect on the overall temperature of the CPU
> (due to close proximity) and so on. This requires the fan to be on at
> almost all times (usually low-speed mode). Others have it worse (the
> laptop literally shutting off in the middle of operation):
>
> http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/stable/2008-06/msg00020.html
>
> Many of these laptops emit a strange high-pitch electrical noise which
> fluxuates in frequency and amplitude; of course, a lot of people can't
> hear it, which is good for them. This was tracked down to some power
> saving features listed in the BIOS (of both the CPU and the chipset),
> which you can disable:
> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_high_pitch_noises
>
> Be sure to look at http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T60p,
> specifically the very bottom of the page. You'll notice a very large
> number of problem entries. A lot of them have no real response from
> Lenovo.
>
> Draw your own conclusions.
>
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My Asus F3T behaves very alike. The GPU gets too much hot and then
everything else suffers. Although I never saw any temperature based forced
shutdown, I can't say its impossible. Well, I read in the net that Turions
are really much hotter, but when running windows and some linux it is not
that hot.
apart from this, and the last year harddisk load_cycle-will-kill-your-hd
bug, everything but the sound volume works fine. Atheros wifi is ok, nfe
based ethernet is ok, just never had any device to test bluetooth. the
nVidia vga also runs fine.
matheus
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