freebsd eclipse plugins & mailing list

[Vizion]

On Thursday 25 August 2005 14:48,  the author Greg Lewis contributed to the 
dialogue on-
 Re: freebsd eclipse plugins & mailing list: 

>On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 01:03:59PM -0700, Vizion wrote:
>> Two suggestions
>> I am wondering if there is any mileage in modifying the ports collection
>> to include a
>> /ports/java/eclipseplugins/
>> hierarchy
>> and giving commit priviledges to members of this list who are willing to
>> test eclipse plugins and add them to the ports.
>
>The whole ports sub-categories idea has been discussed numerous times
>on freebsd-ports.  Please read its archives for how these discussions
>have gone.  In short, there is essentially no chance of this happening
>unless the whole ports tree is changed to allow this, and that proposal
>has been rejected each time it has been discussed.
>
>I'd personally like to see eclipse and all of its plugins removed from
>the java category and placed into devel.  For example, I find it ridiculous
>that the phpeclipse port is in the Java category.  This isn't aimed
>specifically at eclipse though, there are a bunch of ports in the java
>category that shouldn't be (as a main category).

OK I agree the current situation is not very clever. 
How can we go about getting this changed and adding an ports/eclipse. This 
would give us the opportunity to have ports/eclipse/plugins as a logical 
structure. Scattering eclipse plugins around the ports collection is a crazy 
notion. 
Not having an eclipse plugins drectory is just plain daft. There are now 
hundreds of eclipse plugins which we need to track. I am currently using 20 
of them!

>
>> Personally I would be in favor of also creating a
>> freebsd-eclipse at freebsd.org mailing list but I am not certain how much
>> interest there might be. If there is enough support I would be willing to
>> help set it up.
>
>You may be willing to help set it up, but only the FreeBSD postmaster(s)
>can actually do so :).  I personally don't see enough interest for a
>separate mailing list, 

How can we find if there is enough interest without creating the list?
Eclipse is now a very serious EDI which is suitable for all kinds of 
development. Frankly I am dissappointed that freebsd has not been more active 
in the eclipse field.  The lack of plugin support in the ports tree is a 
major deterent.
I know a number of developers who have moved from freebsd to linux just 
because freebsd has not kept up with this very powerful EDI.
Who should I email to request a new list? ( I have cc'd 
postmaster at freebsd.org )

If there is no hope then I suppose I could start an independent mail list - 
but that  idea goes against the grain!

>but I must admit to ignoring most of the eclipse 
>specific messages ;).

Well I am afraid that far to many people in the freebsd community have done 
the same thing and that has only resulted in the eclipse community giving a 
far higher priority and first rate support to the linux community. We are 
behind the curve on this one and losing developers fast.
 
David

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