Speculative: Rust for base system components

Igor Mozolevsky igor at hybrid-lab.co.uk
Thu Jan 3 20:25:08 UTC 2019


On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 at 20:18, Mark Blackman wrote:
>
> > On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:32, Igor Mozolevsky wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 at 16:26, Enji Cooper wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >> PS let’s call the discussion mostly closed and start working on prototypes instead of beating a dead horse further.
> >
> >
> > That's precisely how ideas that most people disagree with get *pushed*
> > through by evangelists with confirmation bias! Like someone said
> > earlier in the discussion: does Rust add anything? The answer is a
> > resounding NO, save for bloat.
>
> Technically, I thought it was clear what Rust adds and that is “safety”, the cost of that “safety” and the comprehensiveness of that “safety” are debatable,
> but the proposed benefit seemed pretty clear to me


And by what metric is that "safety" measured, how does one measure
"safety" objectively? To me, that sounds like a techie version of
virtue-signalling... Even the Rust-clan seem to be rather confused
about it: https://doc.rust-lang.org/nomicon/meet-safe-and-unsafe.html
Btw, Java is "safe" too, and it's been around for *much* longer!

-- 
Igor M.


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