nosh init system

[Enji Cooper]

On Feb 9, 2019, at 09:32, Wojciech Puchar <wojtek at puchar.net> wrote:

>> pid 2 and reap zombies.  We're missing a half-decent service
>> management system.  On Linux, systemd performs both roles.  On
>> FreeBSD, init(8) serves one role, and rc(8) is a tiny subset of a real
>> service management system like systemd.
> 
> systemd is overcomplex crap. And a reason many people migrated to FreeBSD from linux.
> 
>> 
>> (I think the piece we would consider replacing or supplementing would
>> be rc(8).  Part of that might be migrating some responsibilities from
>> pid 1 to pid 2, such as spawning gettys.  I don't hold strong opinions
>> about that.)
> 
> this make sense but with spawning gettys left to init.
> 
> 
> what do you want to improve in rc? starting services in parallel doesn't seem to be major problem to make i think.

Starting and stopping services based on logical events and “run levels”, apart from what devd handles with hardware events is what comes to mind for me.

rc(8) is also incredibly fragile when it comes to starting or stopping services beyond first boot, or when dealing with “optional” services, like nis/yp. I tried to clean this up a few years ago, but it’s not close to my ideal design (it feels like  a bubblegum and duct tape solution).

Cheers,
-Enji

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