nosh version 1.9
Outback Dingo
outbackdingo at gmail.com
Wed Oct 22 22:59:47 UTC 2014
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <
J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Outback Dingo:
>
>>
>> IMHO I think we'd be better off with launchd... but this does show
>> intelligence....
>>
>>
> A while ago, I lived in a comfortable little world. Yes, everyone else
> was getting the likes of Solaris SMF, AIX SRC, systemd, upstart, and
> whatnot. But BSD was alright. Someone was bound to come along and package
> up launchd. After all, MacOS is BSD ... right?
>
> Then I did some investigation.
>
> There have been, to my knowledge, three attempts (in 2005, 2008, and 2013)
> to give launchd to the general BSD world that have involved more than just
> talk. All have foundered. The discomforting truth is that we aren't going
> to get launchd for doing service and system management for the very same
> reasons that we aren't going to get systemd for doing service and system
> management. systemd is full of Linuxisms. launchd is full of Machisms.
> It's simply not a BSD program. It's a Mach program. (The fact that the
> initial process program isn't portable is obvious in hindsight. I kicked
> myself. I've written several initial process programs before. They aren't,
> and cannot be, limited to non-operating-system-specific stuff.) One
> attempt to port launchd involved stubbing out the Machisms. There has been
> a recent attempt to port systemd to FreeBSD that is in the same boat: stub
> out or remove all of the operating system specific parts, and one can get a
> program that will compile (with a lot of compiler warnings); but it doesn't
> function.
>
> The launchd train is never coming. It's this realization, in addition to
> several other motivating factors, that spurred me to aim high with nosh,
> and actually set that task of converting those rc.d scripts. Feel free to
> thank the valiant and noble failures of the launchd porters for the fact
> that there's one alternative to BSD init that doesn't put an XML parser
> into the program for process #1. (-:
>
>
Actually thats not true..... We did successfully port it, and it is not
released on github..... and it does work.
https://github.com/outbackdingo/launchd_xml
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