Training wheels for commandline (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

[Garrett Cooper]

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Garrett Cooper <yanegomi at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Warner Losh <imp at bsdimp.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Jul 5, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 7/5/12 6:38 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>>>> inexperienced users.
>>>>>
>>>>> Having to enable it manually defeats its very purpose.
>>>>
>>>> so is FreeBSD future direction to be moron-OS just like linux is now, or
>>>> is that just another stupid idea on that forum that came and... will pass?
>>>>
>>>> Quite important. There are still people that want normal OS.
>>>
>>>
>>> Just because you don't like the idea doesn't make it stupid, and just
>>> because it comes from linux doesn't make it bad.
>>
>> Both true.  However, if the database lookups took a long time, or had a high overhead to maintain, then it would be stupid to have on by default.
>
> Here's a *random* thought to consider. This seems like a feature that
> FreeNAS/PC-BSD/etc (Linux/Windows/other OS convert) type thing might
> want -- so maybe the feature should exist (but be off) in FreeBSD and
> exist (and be on) in custom FreeBSD distros where users aren't
> necessarily expected to know FreeBSD.

And FWIW, this can exist as a *port* which is LD_PRELOADed (or use
some other LD* hack) as an opt-in for a select set of shells.

-Garrett

PS I personally don't care about this feature on FreeBSD, but I
understand how to use FreeBSD. I sometimes find it helpful on other
OSes like Debian that I don't actively use all of the time.