Improving the kernel/i386 timecounter performance
(GSoC proposal)
Scott Long
scottl at samsco.org
Fri Mar 27 09:51:40 PDT 2009
I've been talking about this for years. All I need is help with the VM
magic to create the page on fork. I also want two pages, one global
for gettimeofday (and any other global data we can think of) and one
per-process for static data like getpid/getgid.
Scott
Sergey Babkin wrote:
> (Sorry for the top quoting). Probably the best implementation of
> gettimeofd=y() is to have
> a page in the kernel mapped read-only to all the user pr=cesses. Put
> the kernel's idea of time
> into this page. Then getting the =ime becomes a simple read (OK, two
> reads, to make sure that
> no update =as happened in between).
> The TSC can then be used to add the precis=on between the ticks of
> the kernel timer:
> i.e. remember the value of TS= when the last tick happen, and the
> highest rate at which
> TSC may be ti=king at this CPU, and export in the same page. This
> would guarantee thatthe time is not moving back.
> However there are more issues with TS=. TSC is guaranteed to have
> the same value
> on all the processors that s=are the same system bus. But if the
> machine is built of multiple
> buses =ith bridges between them, all bets are off. Each bus may be
> stopped, resta=ted
> and clocked separately. There is no way to tell, on which CPU is th=
> process currently
> runnning, and it may be rescheduled do a different C=U right before
> or after the RDTSC
> instruction.
> -SB
> Ma= 26, 2009 06:55:04 PM, [1]phk at phk.freebsd.dk wrote:
>
> In message <[2]17560ccf0903260551v1f5cba9eu8 7727c0bae7baa3 at mail.gmail.com>, Prasha
> nt Vaibhav writes:
> =The gettimeofday() function's implementation will then be
> >change= to read the timestamp counter (TSC) from the processor,
> and use the
> &g=;reading in conjunction with the timing info exported by the
> kernel to
> =calculate and return the time info in proper format.
> I take it a= read, that you know that there are other relvant
> functions than gettim=ofday() and that these must provide a
> monotonic timescale when queried =nterleaved ?
> Be aware that the TSC may not be, and may not stay syn=hronized
> across multiple cores.
> Further more, the TSC is not con=tant frequency and in particular
> not "known frequency" at all times.
> There are a lot of nasty cases to check, and a nasty interpolation
> =equired, which, in my tests some years back, totally negated any
> speedu= from using the TSC in the first place.
> At the very minimum, you wi=l have to add a quirk table where
> known good {CPU+MOBO+BIOS} combinatio=s can be entered, as we
> find them.
> >This will also pave way f=r optionally making the
> >FreeBSD kernel tickless,
> Rubbish. T=mecounters are not even closely associated with the
> tick or ticklessnes= of the kernel. [1]
> > - The TSC frequency might change on cert=in processors with
> non-constant
> > TSC rate (because of SpeedStep, =ynamic freq scaling etc.). The
> only way to
> > combat this is that t=e kernel be notified every time the
> processor
> > frequency changes.=very cpu frequency driver will need to be
> updated to
> > notify the=ernel before and after a cpu freq change.
> That is not good enough= the bios may autonomously change the cpu
> speed
> and the skew from not k=owing exactly _when_ and _how_ the cpu
> clock
> changed, is a significant =umber of microseconds, plenty of time
> to make strange things happen.
> You will want to study carefully Dave Mills work to tame the alpha
> =hips wandering SAW clocks.
> Poul-Henning
> [1] In my mind, rewo=king the callout system in the kernel would
> be a much better more neded=nd much more worthwhile project.
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