any clues hy Gnome isn't autobooting?

[Gary Kline]

	Okay Guys, since everybody has cleared out and  I'm home alone, 
	back to what *really* count!


On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 04:34:21PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:22:55 -0500, Gary Kline <kline at tao.thought.org>  
> wrote:
> 
> >On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 09:30:43PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote:
> >>On Thu, 31 May 2007 21:17:41 -0500, Gary Kline <kline at tao.thought.org>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>	I have gdm_enable="YES" in /rc.conf but whrn I boot, I'm always
> >>>	tossed into termina mode.  I have to login as root and go from
> >>>	there.  Typing gdm is rejected because the binary is already
> >>>	running.  And that proves true.  Tying kdm eventually gets me to
> >>>	that graphix login.  From the kde login i can mouse into any
> >>>	window manager I choose, but it turns out I'm more familiar with
> >>>	gnome, etc, etc.  so to hav my hand, fingers, wrist, i'll
> >>>	appreciate any insights.  Ifthe booot process looks at my
> >>>	.xsession, that is likely part oft he problem.
> >>
> >>You will get better respone from us if you follow this:
> >>http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/bugging.html

	
	Read and consulted.  (I sent this mail to my Ubuntu server which
	runs evolution.  This URL is stashed there and I'll move it to
	the Dell evntuallly.  AT LEast now I've got more clues to keep me
	from shouting ``H E L P'' ... )

> >>
> >>Also, you haven't yet respone back to Norberto Meijome:
> >>http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-gnome/2007-May/017594.html
 
	I must have inadvertandly hit "d"; sorry, Beto.  There were zero
	errs to stdout or stderr.  Only when I typed % gdm did the system
	yelp that gdm was ALREADY running.  I checked, and yup::

	  622  ??  Is     0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/gdm-binary

	Next, I typed kdm and after an error that I couldn't catch from
	the console --I can grep or find the strings if that will help--
	and after kdm thought about it, the kdm xlogin stuff popped up.
	I selected Gnome, and  voila! 

	It may be worth noting that before xorg-7.2, the gdm_enable=YES 
	did throw mw into graphics.  I _do_ have "exec gnome-session" in
	~/.xsession.   Along with a commented #kdestart.  Via the 
	X display manager was how anything worked.  Before I try anything
	else, I'll comment the exec gnome string and reboot.  Got to be 
	some logical explaination why after things mostly work, there are
	these minor snafus... .

	Oh yeah, Beto, after my first runs of portupgrade -aP
	(UPGRADING); and after pkgdb -F's at least twice, things hadn't
	finished.  A few days ago I re-ran portupgrade -a (&c, &c);
	then a pkgdb -L.  Then more things seemed to run.  ----This is 
	a parenthetical comment.  I cvsupdate daily so might run 
	another  portupgrade.  


	--In my notes in  /etc/rc.conf from '05 or '06 maybe I have here
	on tao:


	gdm_enable="NO"
	###
	### if "YES", in /etc/rc.conf and then execute
	###
	### /usr/X11R6/etc/rc.d/gdm.sh start

	On tao2, that probably morphed to

	p5 16:02 <tao2> [515] ll gdm 			     /usr/local/etc/rc.d
	2 -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  561 May 31 12:33 gdm

	but there is also a /usr/local/etc/gdm/ with login-type files.
	So far I haven't looked at them.   Been using CTWM for more
	lifetimes back than I'd like to admit.  So I'm overdue for a
	fancier environment.  ... .



> >
> >	Apologies.  I'll check the URL's within 24  hours.  I'm looking
> >	forward to getting evolution on the "new-tao" so i'll have the
> >	option  of usin it or mutt.
> >
> >>
> >>We are clueless just like you without any of your details.
> >>
> >
> >	Ihear you, friend.  just hhope that this is the last major
> >	upheaval for, oh, 7,000 years :-)
> 
> Afraid, we have a last major overhead for GNOME coming in this fall. We  
> are removing a lot of patches of share/gnome/, so we are going to leave  
> all of GNOME's tarballs vanilla at most. The result will be share/gnome/  
> -> share/. This one will helping us to get a few more years unless xorg  
> or/and GNOME developers do some big changes. ;-)


	So long as it's a script or cookbook directions like in UPDATING,
	no-prob.  I've thought that /usr/X11R6 was overkill for years;
	/usr/local was something that grad students invented circa 1980.
	With v6 and v6 things defaulted to /bin; user-contributed
	binaries were in /usr/bin.  (blah, blah, blah.)  But that *was*
	awhile ago.... :-)  

	nods of appreciation to ever'body,

	gary


> 
> Cheers,
> Mezz
> 

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