> I did the clean installtion of Gnome 2.4.x last night and upgrade to 2.5.x > today by using the gnome_upgrade.sh. so, if i am at 2.4.x portupgraded as of the last few daze, to get to 2.5.x, all i do is o gnome_upgrade.sh, o pkgdb -Ff, and o portupgrade -<your favorite magic> and this might actually work somewhat reliably? randy