TRIM erases user data

[Mark Saad]

> On Jun 17, 2015, at 7:55 PM, steven at multiplay.co.uk wrote:
> 
> We've used Samsung 840 Pro's on FreeBSD with ZFS for a long time (which has TRIM enabled by default) so as far unless this has been broken on a FW or HW version we've not used then I have no reason to believe we're effected by this issue at this time.

I was using 840 pros for zfs on freebsd 9.3 , 10.1 for 2 years with no issues . It was mostly for archival video storage and used as l2arc . 

I am working with  omnios and smartos (illumos / opensolaris) almost exclusively with zpools on ssds of various vendors and I haven't see this issue or similar issues . 

I am still using 4 840ev on a 10.1 zfs box for the pool , and one for a l2arc and it appears to be working as expected . 

For what my opinion is worth of this was some weird hardware bug , it wouldn't just effect Ubuntu. I think Ubuntu or better said the culture of Ubuntu might have a hand in this blog post .

> 
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> 
> On 17 Jun 2015, at 15:58, Mark Martinec <Mark.Martinec+freebsd at ijs.si> wrote:
> 
>>>> On 16 Jun 2015, at 18:51, grarpamp <grarpamp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> https://blog.algolia.com/when-solid-state-drives-are-not-that-solid/
>>>> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/e64f638483a21105c7ce330d543fa1f1c35b5bc7/drivers/ata/libata-core.c#L4109-L4286
>>>> http://www.aerospike.com/docs/operations/plan/ssd/ssd_certification.html
>> 
>> steven at multiplay.co.uk wrote:
>>> This issue centers around queued TRIM requests at the ATA layer, which
>>> is an extension that allows NCQ support for TRIM in the SATA 3.1 spec.
>>> This is not something FreeBSD currently supports so is unaffected by
>>> the issue at this time.
>> 
>> Are you sure? The article explicitly states they were not using
>> queued TRIM:
>> 
>> | A lot of discussions started pointing out that the issue is related
>> | to the newly introduced queued TRIM. This is not correct. The TRIM
>> | on our drives is un-queued and the issue we have found is not related
>> | to the latest changes in the Linux Kernel to disable this features.
>> 
>> 
>> Mark
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