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[Tom Rhodes]

On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 21:54:07 +0100
Marc Fonvieille <blackend at freebsd.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 09:44:13PM +0100, Simon L. Nielsen wrote:
> > On 2004.11.29 10:55:46 -0800, Murray Stokely wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 06:03:20AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote:
> > > > > - Redoing the build system (make files), because it clearly shows its
> > > > >   age and several things are broken, e.g. OBJDIR.
> > > > 
> > > > Makes sense.  I'd be happier seeing a comprehensive list of the things
> > > > that are broken though, so we can measure the replacement and make sure
> > > > it solves the problems.
> > > 
> > > Yes, a few of the recent additions (like mirrors.xml) broke parts of
> > > the build, and it might be better to just fix those broken commits of
> > > the past few years rather than starting from scratch.
> > 
> > OBJDIR was broken way before mirrors.xml.  Also, I'm not really
> > talking about starting on a clean slate.  Of course parts of the the
> > current buildsystem is just fine, but others are just a mess.
> >
> 
> I can confirm that, since I'm guilty of this OBJDIR issue.  It's not
> possible to "easily" fix it without changing a lot of things, so it's
> better to start a rewrite from zero.

Which is a lot of work, I think everyone agrees on that.  But
we can do it.  There is a handful of smart and well meaning
committers here who I feel, if given more time and pointed in
a direction of "what we should do" will come through perfectly.

Right now all we have been doing is bouncing around doing
whatever.  There is just no real sense of direction.

-- 
Tom Rhodes