[CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)

Warner Losh imp at bsdimp.com
Wed Apr 20 03:15:51 UTC 2016


> On Apr 19, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Matthew Grooms <mgrooms at shrew.net> wrote:
> 
> On 4/19/2016 3:09 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>> As far as I know, nobody is taking the source code or the Makefiles
>> away, so if somebody doesn't like the system being distributed with
>> pkg, they can very well roll their own.
>> 
>> It's nice to see the level of enthusiasm the FreeBSD project can
>> muster, I just wish it wasn't always enthusiasm for stopping progress.
>> 
> 
> Maybe I missed an email in this thread, but I don't recall anyone completely rejecting the idea of packaging the base system. What I see is a discussion related to doing it in the best way possible.

Sadly the tenor and tone of the discussion isn’t one where progress is made. The tone has been a bit toxic and demanding, which grinds people into dust, rather than motivating them to fix things. You might call it a discussion, but it reads to me more as a bunch of angry villagers storming the castle. No good can come from that. Tone down the outrage by a factor of 100 and try to have the conversation again.

Warner

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