Randy Bush wrote: > i know i a perverted, but i really prefer not to have ca_mode. i.e. > prior to 9, i had this little patch Are you trying to stop the irritating linux-like screen swapping? I couldn't make termcap play nicely. In the end I put the following in wy .Xresources: XTerm*titeInhibit: true urxvt*secondaryScreen: false Ian -- Ian Freislich